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Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing

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To most of the commentators saying "why work when you're not getting paid", please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't federal employees not paid during a government shutdown getting retroactive pay once funding has been restored?

This administration is just as likely to provide back pay only to ATC employees in states which voted for our God Emperor.

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Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing

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My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…

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I would say that at the time of the election, the idea of funding ICE at the level of the third largest military in the world would be considered a conspiracy theory.

The democrats won't do that because that would lose them the only leverage they have in a government where republicans hold majorities in all three branches.

Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing

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To most of the commentators saying "why work when you're not getting paid", please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't federal employees not paid during a government shutdown getting retroactive pay once funding has been restored?

You can't buy food with an IOU from your employer.

> You can't buy food with an IOU from your employer.

Historically in times of war or civil disorder it's often been possible.

Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing

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My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…

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The last funding approved was passed through reconciliation with zero democrats. There is no “voting for funding they supported in the past” that spending plan is gone

Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing

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To most of the commentators saying "why work when you're not getting paid", please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't federal employees not paid during a government shutdown getting retroactive pay once funding has been restored?

You can't buy food with an IOU from your employer.

Sometimes you can. A decade or so ago when California ran out of money, they issued warrants to their payees, and lots of banks accepted those at face value.

Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing

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My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…

Maybe if the shutdown goes to the midterm, we’ll send representatives who’ll lower federal taxes to a pittance. Then Trump can try his experiment of running the government on tariffs instead (good luck) and we all get to hope our states can fill the gap.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Planes transport more things than people, like organs for transplants. Are those a luxury too?

I'm an American, and I'm absolutely certain at this point in my life that I will never be able to afford to pay for an organ transplant to benefit myself or anyone that I know, regardless of any compatibile combination of need and availability that may arise. Therefore, it will never happen. So yes: I'd like to suggest that organ transplants may be in fact be luxuries. (If the question were instead worded as "Should…

You may never be able to afford it, and your private insurance may not pay for it, but Medicare will without much fanfare. So if you’re planning on living past 65 it could happen.

Re: Ground stop at JFK due to staffing

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My concern is that we will end up in a state of perpetual government "shutdown". The republicans, instead of reopening the entire government, will simply choose agencies to fund in order to keep the pain felt by the American people just low enough so they don't get fired (ala office space). Once that happens, Congress has basically iced itself out. Oversight from unfriendly government agencies? No worries, they're sh…

Speed running to become an actual developing nation. This is what millions of migrants are trying to escape from. Ironic, for all parties involved (well, except for the ones on top of course)

It’s a failed state and people need to get out.
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