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Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

delichon wrote: post #49
djeastm wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nevermind the Grok-ness of it, I can't seriously believe a thinking human being would spend 2 hours knowingly reading something written by AI.

I'm unsurprised that a human being would glibly dismiss the utility of the most powerful new form of knowledge representation since the written word, since we are all deeply in the grip of motivated reasoning.

> the most powerful new form of knowledge representation since the written word

1. the LLM model is a representation of language, not knowledge. The two may be highly correlated, but they are probably not coterminant and they are certainly not equivalent.

2. the final "product" is still the written word

3. whether LLM's are or are not the most powerful new form of knowledge representation or not, their output is so consistently inconsistent in its accuracy that it makes that power difficult to utilize, at best.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

incomingpain wrote: post #90

Wikipedia was the greatest long ago. Then anonymous partisans setup a 'source blacklist' which essentially curates all of wiki for a specific ideology. They acknowledge their systemic bias and have done nothing to fix it. Wiki deserves to give us an apology. In reality no apology needed from wiki, we just move on to what's better. Grokipedia v0.1 is out and from what I've seen it's shockingly better. Tons of improvem…

> Wikipedia was the greatest long ago.

by what metric(s) ?

> Grokipedia's AI editor point of view will thus eliminate the human/ideological abuse of wikipedia.

Where do you think Grok's "AI editor point of view" comes from?

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by sokka_h2otribe »

rconti wrote: post #8
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #3

Can someone give me a deeper understanding of what this post means or the backstory behind it?

There's a website called Wikipedia that is a free online encyclopedia; a compendium of knowledge that can be freely viewed OR edited by anyone with an internet connection. Founded in 2001, it has been looked down upon by academics who believe that compiling and providing knowledge for free leads to cheating. Over the past few years, ANOTHER new technology called Large Language Model, or LLM, has been invented. This n…

I believe the academics concern early on was a lack of confidence in the quality. First through the sciences then outside I think wikipedia showed sufficient quality to eventually be in the good books for academia.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by patrickmcnamara »

incomingpain wrote: post #90

Wikipedia was the greatest long ago. Then anonymous partisans setup a 'source blacklist' which essentially curates all of wiki for a specific ideology. They acknowledge their systemic bias and have done nothing to fix it. Wiki deserves to give us an apology. In reality no apology needed from wiki, we just move on to what's better. Grokipedia v0.1 is out and from what I've seen it's shockingly better. Tons of improvem…

Is this satire?

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by jaredklewis »

incomingpain wrote: post #90

Wikipedia was the greatest long ago. Then anonymous partisans setup a 'source blacklist' which essentially curates all of wiki for a specific ideology. They acknowledge their systemic bias and have done nothing to fix it. Wiki deserves to give us an apology. In reality no apology needed from wiki, we just move on to what's better. Grokipedia v0.1 is out and from what I've seen it's shockingly better. Tons of improvem…

Not sure if your comment is parody or not but can you cite some examples of where Grokipedia is “shockingly better” than Wikipedia?

It’s and honest question. I haven’t noticed a strong bias on Wikipedia but that may just be because the kinds of the things I look up on Wikipedia are usually not political in nature.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by gamerdonkey »

antonymoose wrote: post #45
coolelectronics wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took me less than a minute on the site to run into factually wrong information, broken citations, etc. Cannot imagine rotting my brain with knowingly bad information for over 2 hours

I’ve run into the exact same set of issues on Wikipedia.

Did you fix them?

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

DubiousPusher wrote: post #72
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The sneering and nihilist tone is very off putting You don't seem to be familiar with McSweeney's Internet Tendency. Fair enough, it's not to everyone's taste and doesn't try to be.

I guess maybe the tone would be less noxious if the core coceit of the satire felt more legitimate. I mean, Wikipedia was kind of a shit show back in the day. It's had 20 years of maturation which is more what makes it useful today. And yes, the media is full of blatant and bald faced lies but is that worse than the credulous and uncritical way the media basically endorsed the war in Iraq? I get that it's a joke but…

> "The tone is noxious and the joke doesn't work"

Thank you for your opinion, however I don't view it as anything more than that.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by what_was_it »

incomingpain wrote: post #90

Wikipedia was the greatest long ago. Then anonymous partisans setup a 'source blacklist' which essentially curates all of wiki for a specific ideology. They acknowledge their systemic bias and have done nothing to fix it. Wiki deserves to give us an apology. In reality no apology needed from wiki, we just move on to what's better. Grokipedia v0.1 is out and from what I've seen it's shockingly better. Tons of improvem…

Counterpoint: woky ideology is irrelevant to most of Wikipedia's content.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by GaryBluto »

IAmBroom wrote: post #29
GaryBluto wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it works, it works.

Unsupervised Source of Truth(tm), what could possibly go wrong?

I don't understand what supervision you want. Worried about inaccuracies? Double check and use it in conjunction with other sources.
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