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Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by fullstop »

radlad wrote: post #65
petepete wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly how it is for me too. Everything truly "just worked" - except Sonos, but that's not a Unifi problem - they even have a dedicated page in their docs on how to set up Sonos systems, which I followed exactly, and it now works a treat.

I wish I could say that Unifi has just worked for me, but any time I add a new Unifi device to the network (say a new switch, or just recently a U6 range extender), my network gets incredibly unstable until I manually restart every UniFi device on the network, sometimes multiple times. (i.e. Some devices won't connect to WiFi due to DHCP IP configuration errors.) And that's after getting the device adopted, which gen…

I just wanted to chime in and say that this hasn't been my experience. It sounds like you have some other sort of problem if it takes multiple attempts to adopt.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

eiginn wrote: post #87
FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #19

FiberStore (fs.com) have offered vendor neutral and reprogrammable SFPs and other modules for years (they're also dramatically less expensive).

Now if only the fiberstore SFP programmer didn't require an app that is basically malware as far as I'm concerned.

It is pretty bad...I use a crap laptop to run it (same thing I do for all my PLC software that is just horrible)

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by Hikikomori »

zamadatix wrote: post #36
FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #19

FiberStore (fs.com) have offered vendor neutral and reprogrammable SFPs and other modules for years (they're also dramatically less expensive).

> (they're also dramatically less expensive) It depends, but for typical networking I'd say Ubiquti is actually offering better pricing here (outside of 10G LR) - and I'm saying that as someone who has sold 10s of thousands of FS modules to customers. | FS | Ubiquiti -----------+------+----------- Programmer | $369 | $49 10G SR | $25 | $12 ($20) 10G LR | $34 | $59 ($85) 25G SR | $49 | $29 ($49) 25G LR | $74 | $69 ($1…

Nice prices from Ubiquiti. I think fs mostly competes against Cisco which have much higher prices. IIRC we hade like a 95% discount off Ciscos list price for optics.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by tuetuopay »

bongodongobob wrote: post #85
headwayoldest wrote: post #7

For those outside the IT/networking realms, SFP use uniform connectors for both the networking device and the fiber cable, but the major vendors (Cisco and friends) have used firmware flags and settings to provide vendor lock-in for at least the last 15 years. It used to be that in the event of a major outage or hardware failure you would need to issue additional debug commands to the effect of "I know this isn't you…

I have installed 100s of SFP connections and I've never had an issue with compatibility. I've never even heard of this. Is it just for some ultra high end products or something?

It's more for enterprise gear than anything. For example, enterprise Cisco gear will absolutely reject non-cisco optics, but datacenter gear won't. As an example, the Nexus 9000 line accepts non-cisco optics by default. Granted, those are 10k+ boxes so somewhat high-end but nowhere near the ASR line.

The nexus line being more modern in spirit also helps. Catalysts still reject non-cisco optics without a configuration line afaik.

A good rule of thumb is whether the equipment tries to vendor-lock you in.

Another example that comes to mind is at least one generation of Intel NICs (don't remember if it's the 5xx or the 7xx), where even the open-source mainline (!) driver will reject the optic without a driver argument passed to it when modprobe'ing it.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by bri3d »

bongodongobob wrote: post #85
headwayoldest wrote: post #7

For those outside the IT/networking realms, SFP use uniform connectors for both the networking device and the fiber cable, but the major vendors (Cisco and friends) have used firmware flags and settings to provide vendor lock-in for at least the last 15 years. It used to be that in the event of a major outage or hardware failure you would need to issue additional debug commands to the effect of "I know this isn't you…

I have installed 100s of SFP connections and I've never had an issue with compatibility. I've never even heard of this. Is it just for some ultra high end products or something?

It's more common the more expensive the SFP host equipment, yes. This "compatibility" stuff is generally euphemism for "ridiculously primitive DRM" - lots of higher end network equipment checks the SFP Vendor ID and Serial Number and will reject it if it doesn't match an allow-list of "qualified" hardware. Programmers like these let you clone the VID/Serial from a "qualified" SFP onto a random SFP.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by tuetuopay »

efitz wrote: post #10

Ubiquiti is awesome, but their IPv6 support leaves something to be desired. I have two ISPs, one with IPv6 (Starlink) and one without (Frontier). I want to use Frontier for all IPv4, with IPv4 failover to Starlink, and I want to use Starlink only for IPv6. UniFi networking won’t let you configure this, and I’m not going to SSH in to my UDM to manually set routes, that will be lost at next boot.

I've recently had a laugh on a UDM trying to setup IPv6 routing. Somehow, it did not install the default route in the FIB, but the OS was aware of it, so the router was reachable from the outside but did not route packets. I tried adding a route to `::0/0` and it spat at me that a multicast destination was not valid as a route destination. I gave it a route to `::0/1` and it's happily chugging along now. /shrug

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by tuetuopay »

superice wrote: post #14
bananapub wrote: post #5

some context that's perhaps not obvious to non-networking people: essentially all networking hardware above 1G doesn't have rj45 or fibre ports in it, it has holes that you put modules in, "SFP+" modules for 10G, "SFP28" for 28gig networking, etc. most manufacturers of devices - the things with the holes, NICs, switches, routers - make their devices only officially work with modules that claim to be manufactured by t…

Minor pedantic correction: 2.5gbit, 5gbit and 10gbit RJ45 is getting more affordable and more common, and for short runs should run over CAT 6 and CAT 6a fine, and plenty of reports it does ok on short runs even on CAT 5e. With devices like the USW Flex Mini 2.5 at ~50-60 EUR / USD, you can affordably outfit your home for higher than gigabit speeds without rewiring everything with new CAT cable or fiber. Over here in…

> 2.5gbit, 5gbit and 10gbit RJ45 is getting more affordable and more common

Still, compared to the SFP+ gear it's ridiculously overpriced. NICs are > Over here in NL we now get more and more access to >1gbps speeds

Same in France, yet the main "geek" ISP (free) has an 8Gbps symmetric ISP router with a 10G SFP+ cage for full bandwidth to the LAN. RJ45 ports are 2.5G.

And it's hard to fault them, as customers that are likely to even hardwire stuff to the router and moreso at 10Gbps are usually enthusiasts that do prefer SFP+ due to the abundance of hardware on the used market. Oh, and their team designing the router are a bunch of nerds that most likely all have a 10Gbps network.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by tracker1 »

donatj wrote: post #28

Early this year I started redoing the backbone of my home network with 10 gb. Some of it's fiber, some of it's 10 gb copper Ethernet. It's been genuinely frustrating the weird incompatibilities between switches and SFP+ modules. All my switches are MikroTik. My SFP+ modules are MikroTik, Ubiquiti, and some 3rd party ones from before I knew better. I've had modules that will only run at gigabit in one switch but will…

Similar... I only bought a single 8-port 10gb ethernet switch though... I have a couple devices with 10g nics including my NAS, the rest are 2.5g. I'm hoping that sooner than later, 10g ethernet gear pricing comes down closer to where 2.5g is today.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by subscribed »

FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #56
zamadatix wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (they're also dramatically less expensive) It depends, but for typical networking I'd say Ubiquti is actually offering better pricing here (outside of 10G LR) - and I'm saying that as someone who has sold 10s of thousands of FS modules to customers. | FS | Ubiquiti -----------+------+----------- Programmer | $369 | $49 10G SR | $25 | $12 ($20) 10G LR | $34 | $59 ($85) 25G SR | $49 | $29 ($49) 25G LR | $74 | $69 ($1…

For high speed home stuff, I usually pick up some old Mellanox infiniband cards and cables. They're usually dirt cheap and insanely quick. Difficult to work with if you do not know what your are doing.

OMG, mlx fw upgrades.

I'm so happy my current employer chose sfc :)

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