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Re: You are how you act

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Post by kragen »

KaiserPro wrote: post #83
kragen wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were they wrong?

Yes, demonstrably. https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/meta-smartwatch-leaked-a... That abomination should have been killed from the start. the lack of attention to user experience in any of the RL based products The utterly stupid "blockchain compatibility" policy, which was too late, to fucking stupid and poorly executed. The inability to run any project in RL that delivered any kind of value (horizon's many many m…

So it was pretty important and beneficial for someone to tell them so, and Boz ended up being the guy? That doesn't sound like his worst; keeping his mouth shut on other occasions was almost certainly worse.

Re: You are how you act

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Post by vacuity »

justbees wrote: post #75
mannykannot wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a fair question, but would you trust them equally in an unanticipated crisis, where doing the right thing might be costly in hard-to-predict ways?

If the two are indistinguishable from an outsider's perspective how would you know which one to trust?

Yes, then there is no way to elevate Bob above Alice, but in practice I think the assumption of external indistinguishability is too strong, and even the suspicion that Alice is sketchy (i.e. without hard proof) is meaningful.

Re: You are how you act

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Post by some_furry »

mannykannot wrote: post #89
justbees wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the two are indistinguishable from an outsider's perspective how would you know which one to trust?

You can phrase the same question thus: which set of traits is more likely to lead a person to stay true to prior form in a crisis?

The trouble is, you can think you're dealing with a Bob, but you're actually dealing with an Alice, even after enduring multiple crises that didn't trigger their specific type of badness.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/03/how-i-...

But as fun as this line of thinking is, my initial charitable post was only asking for a kind of "superficial" indistinguishability. As long as you don't think about it too hard, y'know?

Re: You are how you act

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Post by jbs789 »

I found myself asking: what is he trying to achieve with this post.

It all just seems a bit muddled once you consider his actions.

Just seems like self justification.

Or some direction for his employees - don’t think, do.

Oh right, this is the Facebook CTO. That’s entirely consistent with their behaviour.

Re: You are how you act

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Post by raffael_de »

KaiserPro wrote: post #63

I do love when Boz espouses opinions. He has got better them over the years, this one is much less teenager trying to sound clever. Which is great, I love to see people grow. The problem with this is that in my professional dealings with him, he has two modes: empathetic & arrogant dick. At his worse he was fighting in the comments section of workplace, telling employees that they are wrong. At his best he is warm an…

So this text is not "teenager trying to sound clever"? I just thought that this is the best summary of it.

Re: You are how you act

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Post by vacuity »

cgriswald wrote: post #54
gchamonlive wrote: post #20

We all talk a lot about the mind over the body and emotions, so you can act stoicly regardless of your internal experience and how your body feels, and it's all fine, but it's important to make a point that your mood is more dependent on your body health than you think at first. How depressed you are can for instance be linked to the last time you went to the loo and how great your turds look ( https://www.frontiersi…

Willpower can be used to suppress emotion and act in a particular way. This can be useful but isn’t an effective long term strategy. Willpower is finite and sometimes fickle, in part because of the physical reasons you describe. For most stimuli, our strongest emotional reactions are to our thoughts about the stimulus, rather than the stimulus itself. A better application of willpower is to reject and replace the tho…

A change in mindset must happen, but the proper mindset in which to change one's mindset is elusive. Even if my mindset today is flawed, what specifically should stay and what should go to make myself a better person? It feels like leaping from a safe harbor into the unknown. Can you convince a person to kill themselves and let a near-copy-but-not-quite live their life instead?

That being said, I think some positive change can be produced with diligence and care, even if the methods and details are hazy even to the person enacting them.

Re: You are how you act

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Post by herval »

KaiserPro wrote: post #63

I do love when Boz espouses opinions. He has got better them over the years, this one is much less teenager trying to sound clever. Which is great, I love to see people grow. The problem with this is that in my professional dealings with him, he has two modes: empathetic & arrogant dick. At his worse he was fighting in the comments section of workplace, telling employees that they are wrong. At his best he is warm an…

My best memory of boz is him arguing with an intern on workspace and calling them "privileged", during COVID, when the kid asked whether the company would provide some sort of cash bonus since the free meals weren't available.

"Teenager trying to sound clever" captures every other interaction perfectly.

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