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Look, Another AI Browser

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Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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labrador wrote: post #74
zamadatix wrote: post #61

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Building on top of a bunch of things works well, and is pretty much what Chromium itself is anyways. Building something "new" that is 99% the old thing so you can add your 1% is a different kind of building, and can't be lumped with the former by default. More powerful extensions is definitely the answer, just not one Google wants to allow. The main problem with this is if browser A adds feature 1 and browser B adds…

I've been very impressed by the open source Ladybird project for several years now. I wasn't up to date and didn't realize it had 8 full time engineers working on it now with project leader Andreas Kling. This is truely more promising than "slapping things on Chromium" and competing with Google Chrome. I didn't explicity state but was implying that a new plug in archeticture to the open source Chromium project might…

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Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by ninininino »

codeflo wrote: post #11

To find out what someone truly believes, don't listen to what they say, observe how they act. I don't see how OpenAI's recent actions make any sense from the perspective a company that internally believes it's actually close to unlocking super-intelligence.

They are multiple companies in-one. One that is pushing for AGI, model development, one that is trying to build consumer apps and "win" AI applications/platform moat.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by xena »

ikmckenz wrote: post #45
microtonal wrote: post #32

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Another possible aspect of it is that probably more and more sites are blocking AI crawlers through e.g. Cloudflare's support for blocking AI crawler and AI agents. This will give them a backdoor to that content through a user's connection. I am not sure if this is happening, but as blocking becomes more prevalent, having a widely-used browser will help.

Why won't these sites simply block this browser?

I downloaded it to see if Anubis can block it. It lies and claims to be Google Chrome.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by bengoodger »

username223 wrote: post #65
bengoodger wrote: post #10

Genuinely curious - what do people want to see from a new/different rendering engine? The web is crazy complex these days because it is an entire app platform. The incentive for anyone building a browser is to use the platform that gives you the best web compat especially at the outset when you don’t have enough users of your app to be able to make big changes to the platform. Even Chrome didn’t start from scratch -…

> The web is crazy complex these days because it is an entire app platform. I'd prefer something that's not crazy complex, that's not "an entire app platform" designed and implemented by Google. Google essentially controls the W3C (Mozilla would vanish if Google stopped funding it), and controls the monopoly rendering engine. Half of websites are better without JavaScript and web fonts, and 99% are just text, images,…

I too have nostalgia for a time when prices were reasonable, politicians didn't philander and children respected their elders.

And yet here we are :-)

For what it's worth, despite it being /en vogue/ to rag on Google, the Chrome team has some of the most talented and dedicated folks focused on building a vibrant and interesting web for most people in the world.

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Post by the_snooze »

ljm wrote: post #82
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #58

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Man, I miss the old days, seeing new tech come out and not immediately wondering how the worst parts of our industry are going to turn it into the torment nexus.

I remember the optimism: Google is launched and it is web directories but…better. It takes a decade to become a monolithic ad-tech company but all is not lost yet, until it becomes the face of enshittification of the entire internet another decade on. Facebook is launched and it’s this cool way to keep in touch with your friends until that too becomes a monolithic ad-tech company a decade later, and soon after become…

So much modern tech is just about capture and extraction, not actually empowering the end user. It's as if guitar companies found a way to make more money in claiming royalties on musicians' work instead of building good guitars.

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Post by codyb »

Terretta wrote: post #67
codeflo wrote: post #11

To find out what someone truly believes, don't listen to what they say, observe how they act. I don't see how OpenAI's recent actions make any sense from the perspective a company that internally believes it's actually close to unlocking super-intelligence.

No, but their actions do suggest they think they're nearing a disruption to both browser and web page: a new way to acquire and make use of information. Like an information OS for the information cloud.

I suspect that this will always be just one more year away like Tesla's robotaxis

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by zurfer »

sikimiki wrote: post #73
aabhay wrote: post #16

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OpenAI has always had the stance of “commercialize narrow AI that is research aligned with AGI development”. In fact they used to ask this as an interview question — “should we commercialize narrow AI or aim to put all resources into AGI”. The correct answer required you to prove you drank the kool aid and also wanted to make tons of money.

Is there a correct answer?

Commercializing something gives you more resources to do the thing you really want to do.

Anthropic came to the same conclusion. SSI either doesn't have something commercializable or came to a different conclusion.

Re: Look, Another AI Browser

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Post by bloppe »

codeflo wrote: post #11

To find out what someone truly believes, don't listen to what they say, observe how they act. I don't see how OpenAI's recent actions make any sense from the perspective a company that internally believes it's actually close to unlocking super-intelligence.

I'd go a step further: has OpenAI actually achieved any significant research breakthroughs on par with Google's transformers? So why does everybody think they will achieve the next N breakthroughs necessary to get to AGI?
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