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Re: What I Self Host

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Post by ajnin »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #47

How come everything is "opinionated" these days, and since when has that become a compliment? I don't want software to have opinions, I want it to do what I tell it.

What this really means is that there are few configuration options, that it works mostly out of the box, and that it fits the tastes and needs of the developer. I can't really fault open source devs for that, it's a way to conserve resources. If I don't like something I go look elsewhere (or think about building my own then abandon the project in a git repo somewhere).

Re: What I Self Host

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Post by senectus1 »

teddyh wrote: post #4

I deplore this weakening and dilution of the term “self-hosting”. In my opinion, if your services had downtime today, you are not “self-hosting”. If you depend on anything which has “cloud” in its name, you are not “self-hosting”. If you cannot reasonably quickly access your hardware physically, like inserting or replacing an add-on card, you are not “self-hosting”. EDIT: It’s like saying “I don’t take the bus! I ‘se…

completely agree, though it depends on why you self host.

Re: What I Self Host

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Post by doublerabbit »

pfych wrote: post #84
doublerabbit wrote: post #49

Just wait until folk hear about colocation. Been colocating for 10 years now, the best of both worlds.

I'd love to colocate some hardware but all the options near me (Sydney, Australia) are insanely expensive for no reason, how do you go about finding affordable rackspace?

Ship it to the next best DC in a foreign country. Iceland, Sweden, Austria all have great DCs and connectivity and are the best prices outside of my city. Your latency will suffer but for personal, semi-professional you end up with a fun hobby.

Buy something second hand off eBay and have it shipped directly to the DC. Most are kitted with a KVM, so you can then configure all the settings when racked. When it's time to retire they are normally happy to do so for a small fee.

Same with spare hardware, send a couple of spare drives. Make friends with the DCops team and they'll be happy to swap parts.

WebHostingTalk is another good resource for research and colo offers/self hosting [0]

One day I hope for my own /29 but with IPv4 exhaustion don't count on it. A /27 when used sensibly works well.

[0] https://www.webhostingtalk.com/

Re: What I Self Host

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Post by estimator7292 »

zahlman wrote: post #2

There seems to be a fad for "self hosting" things now. What I don't understand is: what happened to just having a single device and having it run the code directly and show you the result directly? For example, why can't the thing that connects to the Spotify API just... do that, from a program that runs locally, independent of a web browser, with a GUI created using a standard non-web GUI toolkit? Why would I want t…

A lot of the stuff we're selfhosting just.... isn't a standalone application. My mastodon server has to run always to get messages. My nexcloud has to be always on to get my phone backups.

The only thing that might make sense to be local is media, but only if you don't share with someone else and you want to maintain an offline copy of your library on each device you use.

In general, it's stuff that needs to be shared or needs to run 24/7. A lot of that just doesn't make any sense as a desktop application.

All rationalization aside, it's a hobby. It's fun. People spin up hulking enterprise gear at home and run jellyfin just for kicks. It's not supposed to be at all practical or to even make sense. It's silly nonsense on purpose.

Re: What I Self Host

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Post by 47282847 »

Semaphor wrote: post #51
latexr wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The meaning is I install my own software and set up as I want. That seems a bit vague. If you tell that to someone who never heard of self-hosting, they’d be excused for wondering if that means downloading from an App Store and opening the settings.

I'd expand on it of my audience weren't HN ;) Though I guess I missed "on a server"

A phone can be a great “server“ too.

Re: What I Self Host

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Post by ThatPlayer »

pluto_modadic wrote: post #66
teddyh wrote: post #4

I deplore this weakening and dilution of the term “self-hosting”. In my opinion, if your services had downtime today, you are not “self-hosting”. If you depend on anything which has “cloud” in its name, you are not “self-hosting”. If you cannot reasonably quickly access your hardware physically, like inserting or replacing an add-on card, you are not “self-hosting”. EDIT: It’s like saying “I don’t take the bus! I ‘se…

self-hosting: running open source code that you could run on any computer. if it's convenient to run mastodon on hetzner, that's STILL self hosting; because you /can/ move your app IN ITS ENTIRETY from any computer to any other. HomeLab elites really are the most insufferable people out there.

It doesn't have to be open source. Plex is probably the most popular example of that. MongoDB is also no longer generally considered open source.

Re: What I Self Host

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Post by agnishom »

busymom0 wrote: post #25

> I pay for a cheap droplet at DigitalOcean, about $5 per month, and an additional dollar for backup. Wait, I thought self hosting meant having your own hardware at like home running all your services. Not DigitalOcean.

That's true, but this still gives OP some level of control

Re: What I Self Host

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Post by [deleted] »

sh3rl0ck wrote: post #31
tetrisgm wrote: post #13

Self hosting is great. The examples in this article are not exactly shining examples: an API that shows your Spotify stats? If we’re going to talk about self hosting music, I’d like to mention Roon, which is loved by audiophiles. It aims at creating a magazine like experience for navigating and discovering music. Been using it since COVID and it’s completely transformed my experience of listening to something else th…

The fact that it's a subscription is slightly off putting. Loved the UI photos, but I guess I'll continue with Navidrome + Feishin/Symfonium.

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Re: What I Self Host

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Post by mkayokay »

leosanchez wrote: post #74
npodbielski wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Others already answered with information that you usually have more devices then just 1. So you can have access to your data from PC, laptop and your phone. I for once also like to have my own data my own. I.e. I have: - my own email server - my own files sharing service - service for cardDav, CalDav etc. - service for editing my own office files on mobile - notes that are synchronized - streaming of movies and music…

Can you list out the names of services?

You could have a look at the following list, as there are a lot of options to choose from in each category: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

Re: What I Self Host

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Post by bjoli »

npodbielski wrote: post #60
zahlman wrote: post #2

There seems to be a fad for "self hosting" things now. What I don't understand is: what happened to just having a single device and having it run the code directly and show you the result directly? For example, why can't the thing that connects to the Spotify API just... do that, from a program that runs locally, independent of a web browser, with a GUI created using a standard non-web GUI toolkit? Why would I want t…

Others already answered with information that you usually have more devices then just 1. So you can have access to your data from PC, laptop and your phone. I for once also like to have my own data my own. I.e. I have: - my own email server - my own files sharing service - service for cardDav, CalDav etc. - service for editing my own office files on mobile - notes that are synchronized - streaming of movies and music…

I tried various Things to be able to access my own DNA while not at home and ended up using wire guard for my subnet so that I always have access to my DNA server. Right now I am solving it with mikrotiks "back to home" app., but the regular wire guard app does it as well. It uses very little battery.
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