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Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, you realize that the recent demo of Anduril's helmet that gives an information display that the soldier/cop wearing it can use to "see who is in the house" or "see around corners" etc. is not sci-fi but instead, something they can do today.

I hate that all our favorite sci-fi books were used as manuals for what to build next, instead of trying to avoid creating those futures in our real lives.

Many people (including in this website) are hard at work creating the torment nexus.

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

#93

When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, you realize that the recent demo of Anduril's helmet that gives an information display that the soldier/cop wearing it can use to "see who is in the house" or "see around corners" etc. is not sci-fi but instead, something they can do today.

In reality - I think this will be far worse than that. Why send in an expensive soldiers or a cop when you could just filter in a drone

"Just trust us, the people on that boat were definitely smuggling drugs."

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

#94

Might be a good time to enable E2EE on your Ring cams if you haven’t already: https://ring.com/support/articles/7e3lk/using-video-end-to-e...

Is this seriously your conclusion? Might be a good time to get rid of the fucking spy camera owned by a multitrillion dollar corporation partnering with the state surveillance apparatus, is my opinion.

Have people never read/watched a sci-fi book/film before?

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#95
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And this is why my setup will be using Reolink cameras integrated locally via HomeAssistant and Frigate. Detection runs locally on cameras and/or in Frigate, HA manages events and UI, and the only way to access any of it remotely is via VPN, no "cloud" anything. If the authorities come knocking with a warrant, or frankly, even a nicely-worded sensible request, sure, have at it. But ain't nobody accessing the footage…

I've had better experience with Armcrest cameras but same setup. Moved from using Arlo to a completely local setup and do not regret it one bit.

Worst part was just running ethernet to the spots where the cameras needed to go (only crawlspace access) but nice not having to charge batteries and even nicer knowing i'm not sending video to netgear anymore.

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that all our favorite sci-fi books were used as manuals for what to build next, instead of trying to avoid creating those futures in our real lives.

Many people (including in this website) are hard at work creating the torment nexus.

No doubt. The question is, is that the explicit goal, and if so, why? And if not, don't they consider the effects of their actions, if they aren't, why?

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#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reality - I think this will be far worse than that. Why send in an expensive soldiers or a cop when you could just filter in a drone

"Just trust us, the people on that boat were definitely smuggling drugs."

Back in the good old days police had some dedication to their work and some professional integrity. They would at least go through the effort of planting the drugs afterwards...

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

#99

George Orwell really never could have imagined that people would flock to purchase or otherwise use the methods of their own surveillance. (smart phones, social media, smart cameras, modern cars, etc) I think it paints government surveillance policies in something of a different light. There is definitely a constituency which believes that the evil central government is pushing for surveillance in a purely unilateral…

>government surveillance policies are more popular then some folks in HN circles would suspect.

2 things.

1. Few people understand most surveillance legislation, including journalists.

2. Most governments use thought terminating cliches involving child safety to force compliance on the middle set of people who dont like surveillance and understand a minimum amount of what the legislation does.

These points leave anti surveillance campaigners fighting an uphill battle. Most people, when they have these laws clearly articulated and arent in danger of being called a pedo for opposing them, oppose them.

Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

#100

George Orwell really never could have imagined that people would flock to purchase or otherwise use the methods of their own surveillance. (smart phones, social media, smart cameras, modern cars, etc) I think it paints government surveillance policies in something of a different light. There is definitely a constituency which believes that the evil central government is pushing for surveillance in a purely unilateral…

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