Earlier quoted context omitted.
Presumably that was a typo since it seemed like a pretty sane commend otherwise.
Yes, I assume they meant "precedent".
Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
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Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#92What do they seek to accomplish here? There is strong precedent for the US defending the 1st amendment against foreign interests. No UK bureaucrats are going to make a career out of this. Going after a company that can defend itself and can't be intimidated, will prevent them from bluffing successfully against smaller companies, who could realistically be intimidated. If I were working at Ofcom, I would stay away fro…
This isn’t a play to get money or 4chan to comply, it’s a play to increase the strength of their legislation. So expect stronger blocking etc to be on the cards to prevent foreign entities from avoiding the law.
Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you’re overanalyzing it. They’re just enforcing the law. You and I may agree that it’s a bad law, but that doesn’t mean that the people in charge of enforcing it necessarily have complex and sinister motives.
I don't agree that wanting to further one's own career is complex or sinister. If the enforcement of laws wasn't aligned with career progress it would be bad for enforcement, including the laws that you and I want enforced. Even if the goal is just enforcement, you would get more enforcement, collect more fines, if you didn't put your ability to actually collect fines into question. When 4chan successfully defends it…
Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#94Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#95What do they seek to accomplish here? There is strong precedent for the US defending the 1st amendment against foreign interests. No UK bureaucrats are going to make a career out of this. Going after a company that can defend itself and can't be intimidated, will prevent them from bluffing successfully against smaller companies, who could realistically be intimidated. If I were working at Ofcom, I would stay away fro…
4chan are the “think of the children” bad guys to make an example out of. This isn’t a play to get money or 4chan to comply, it’s a play to increase the strength of their legislation. So expect stronger blocking etc to be on the cards to prevent foreign entities from avoiding the law.
Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#964chan will pay in two more weeks
huh? what makes you think of that?
Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#97What do they seek to accomplish here? There is strong precedent for the US defending the 1st amendment against foreign interests. No UK bureaucrats are going to make a career out of this. Going after a company that can defend itself and can't be intimidated, will prevent them from bluffing successfully against smaller companies, who could realistically be intimidated. If I were working at Ofcom, I would stay away fro…
4chan are the “think of the children” bad guys to make an example out of. This isn’t a play to get money or 4chan to comply, it’s a play to increase the strength of their legislation. So expect stronger blocking etc to be on the cards to prevent foreign entities from avoiding the law.
Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#98Do they even have any legal presence in UK to fine?
I assume it's mostly symbolic and/or serving some greater legal purpose.
If an entire continent was at stake, this would be a different story. But, in the end, the UK is small in the grand scheme of things. Any website operated outside the UK won't care, and actively demonstrating this is pretty illogical from their part.
Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you’re overanalyzing it. They’re just enforcing the law. You and I may agree that it’s a bad law, but that doesn’t mean that the people in charge of enforcing it necessarily have complex and sinister motives.
I don't agree that wanting to further one's own career is complex or sinister. If the enforcement of laws wasn't aligned with career progress it would be bad for enforcement, including the laws that you and I want enforced. Even if the goal is just enforcement, you would get more enforcement, collect more fines, if you didn't put your ability to actually collect fines into question. When 4chan successfully defends it…
How do you expect this to happen? The law is pretty clear and afaik 4chan has been pretty explicit that they know the law and they're ignoring it. 4chan's 'out' is that they don't have any legal presence in the UK. More legitimate enterprises do so the results of this will have no bearing on them.
Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean Russia has fined Google 20 decillion USD. What is the point if you can't collect? Like me fining my neighbor 100 million Euro. He will laugh at me and tell me to get lost. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxvnwkl5kgo
Are you likening the UK to Russia? This is not a fictive fine, it's threats of imprisonment, and ignoring the whole thing means having to avoid travelling to or through the UK for life, and that's assuming the UK doesn't try to activate any sort of extradition agreements. Even without going to prison, that's a permanent and quite significant theft of freedom of movement. If you ever travel abroad, you could end up ac…