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Re: Microsoft Amplifier

#91

I do a lot of work with claude code and codex cli but frankly as soon as I see all the LLM-tells in the readme, and then all the commit messages written by claude, I immediately don't want to read the readme or try the project until someone else recommends it to me. This is gaining stars and forks but I don't know if that's just because it's under the github.com/microsoft, and I don't really know how much that means.

I'd rather have in-depth commit messages then three word ones

Re: Microsoft Amplifier

#92
post #29

A lot of snark in these comments. Has anyone actually tried it yet?

The repo is full of big AI words without any metrics/benchmark.

People are correct to question it.

If anything, Microsoft needs to show something meaningful to make people believe it's worth trying it out.

Re: Microsoft Amplifier

#94

I think that letting an LLM run unsupervised on a task is a good way to waste time and tokens. You need to catch them before they stray too far off-path. I stopped using subagents in Claude because I wasn't able to see what they were doing and intervene. Indirectly asking an LLM to prompt another LLM to work on a long, multi-step task doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I think community efforts should go toward mak…

Yeah in my experience, LLMs are great but they still need babysitting lest they add 20k lines of code that could have been 2k.

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#95

I think that letting an LLM run unsupervised on a task is a good way to waste time and tokens. You need to catch them before they stray too far off-path. I stopped using subagents in Claude because I wasn't able to see what they were doing and intervene. Indirectly asking an LLM to prompt another LLM to work on a long, multi-step task doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I think community efforts should go toward mak…

When the task is bigger than I trust the agent to work on it on its own, or for me to review the results, I ask it to create a plan with steps. Then create a md file for each step. I review the steps, and ask the agent to implement the first one. Review that one, fix it, then ask it to update the next steps, and then implement the next one. And so on, until finished.

Re: Microsoft Amplifier

#96

I do a lot of work with claude code and codex cli but frankly as soon as I see all the LLM-tells in the readme, and then all the commit messages written by claude, I immediately don't want to read the readme or try the project until someone else recommends it to me. This is gaining stars and forks but I don't know if that's just because it's under the github.com/microsoft, and I don't really know how much that means.

I'd rather have in-depth commit messages then three word ones

When I blind-commit claude code commit messages they are sometimes totally wrong. Not even hallucinations necessarily - by the time I'm committing the context may be large and confusing, or some context lost.

I'd rather have the three word message than detailed but wrong messages.

I think I agree with you anyway on average. Most of the time a claude-authored commit message is better than a garbage message.

But it's still a red flag that the project may be filled with holes and not really ready for other people. It's just so easy to vibe your way to a project that works for you but is buggy and missing tons of features for anyone who strays from your use case.

Re: Microsoft Amplifier

#97
post #67

Starting in Claude bypass mode does not give me confidence: WARNING: Claude Code running in Bypass Permissions mode │ │ │ │ In Bypass Permissions mode, Claude Code will not ask for your approval before running potentially dangerous commands. │ │ This mode should only be used in a sandboxed container/VM that has restricted internet access and can easily be restored if damaged.

The Readme clearly states: Caution This project is a research demonstrator. It is in early development and may change significantly. Using permissive AI tools in your repository requires careful attention to security considerations and careful human supervision, and even then things can still go wrong. Use it with caution, and at your own risk.

Claude Code will not ask for your approval before running potentially dangerous commands.

and

requires careful attention to security considerations and careful human supervision

is a bit orthogonal no?

Re: Microsoft Amplifier

#98

I think that letting an LLM run unsupervised on a task is a good way to waste time and tokens. You need to catch them before they stray too far off-path. I stopped using subagents in Claude because I wasn't able to see what they were doing and intervene. Indirectly asking an LLM to prompt another LLM to work on a long, multi-step task doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I think community efforts should go toward mak…

I also use AI to do discrete, well-defined tasks so I can keep an eye on things before they go astray.

But I thought there are lots of agentic systems that loop back and ask for approval every few steps, or after every agent does its piece. Is that not the case?

Re: Microsoft Amplifier

#99

Starting in Claude bypass mode does not give me confidence: WARNING: Claude Code running in Bypass Permissions mode │ │ │ │ In Bypass Permissions mode, Claude Code will not ask for your approval before running potentially dangerous commands. │ │ This mode should only be used in a sandboxed container/VM that has restricted internet access and can easily be restored if damaged.

I assumed, especially with the VS Code recommendation, that this would automatically use devcontainers...
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