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Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by ihumanable »

m-p-3 wrote: post #7
Workaccount2 wrote: post #3

What does your life around your house look like when you can shamelessly leave a mess everywhere? It almost makes the uncomfortable with the amount of laziness it enables. At least with a human maid you still feel shame leaving a mess, but a robot?

Should I feel bad to use a dishwasher or a washing machine? Also one of the chores I hate doing the most is folding clothes. If I could have a machine that does it well every time, I'd buy it.

Until you have a cheap and effective robot butler. I also used to hate folding clothes, and then I got one of those folding boards that you see sometimes at clothing stores. (One of these things https://www.walmart.com/ip/BoxLegend-T-shirt-Folding-Board-T...)

Honestly a game changer. Sounds stupid, but there's just something very satisfying about being able to quickly fold a bunch of clothes and get very nice results.

And if we get humanoid robots at some point, they can use them too.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by indrora »

sksksk wrote: post #26

The use cases in their videos are interesting, I suppose the world we live in is build for humans, so it makes sense to build a robot that is human shaped. So we don't need to buy new washing machines and redesign our house to get a robot maid. The hotel reception use case seems ridiculous though, if you get rid of a human receptionist, you lose the human element of the check in process, which people like. If you're…

A few years ago, I was in Vegas for an event.

All factors of "it was Vegas" aside, one of the things that stood out to me was that the hotels have moved rapidly to rapid checkin/checkout systems where you punch in your confirmation code or name/dob and present a photo ID of some kind (passports can just be slapped against the reader) and it asks a few questions ("do you need late checkout", etc), directs you to the exact place your room is (and prints it, which was nice) and tells you where the bellhop station is if there's more than a little while before your room is ready and it can't dispense your cards.

All told, four of these stations had roughly 90% the throughput of the four real humans, but they "moved faster" because it didn't feel like queuing for a human, more... "waiting for a toilet"?

Kiosk based stuff is great until it fails. Spend an hour in the checkin area of a major airport and you'll see any number of interesting failure modes.

As for the washing machine bit: Why not push for more standards usage in home automation? We have Thread, which is really cool, and which is driving the home automation future that we're slowly getting. Once it's loaded, a homebot should't have to check the thing manually, it should get information about when, what, and how and be able to have "eyes in the back of its head" so to speak.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by neom »

pietz wrote: post #89

Give me a 30min uncut video of it doing chores around the house to make me a believer.

Not what you're asking for, but the CEO has posted a bunch of videos on his twitter: https://x.com/adcock_brett/media - def marketing but still, some interesting stuff in there, looks like he is using one in his own home: https://x.com/adcock_brett/status/1950685253447913798

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by psunavy03 »

causal wrote: post #14
dpcx wrote: post #2

Maybe it's just me, but everything about this announcement feels very I, Robot... and not in a good way. > allowing the entire fleet to upload terabytes of data for continuous learning and improvement Ugh. Edit: Yes, I meant I, Robot the film. U.S. Robotics and the like.

Yeah tech companies have a weird fixation on using dystopian literature as their entire branding playbook

https://x.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by ileonichwiesz »

esafak wrote: post #44
zingababba wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've skipped all the other past smart home trends, I think I'll skip this one too. I'll just do the dishes and laundry myself like I always have no biggie.

You wouldn't want a hand if you became infirm? In richer countries, human helpers are expensive.

Helpers may be expensive, but space is at a premium too. Imagine this thing trying to navigate a cramped studio apartment.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by ihumanable »

modeless wrote: post #16

> Charging coils in the robot’s feet allow it to simply step onto a wireless stand and charge at 2 kW. This is silly. Wireless charging is inefficient and costly compared to cables but we use it for the convenience of humans, to avoid the annoyance of having to plug something in repeatedly. Obviously a humanoid robot should simply plug in its own cable ! No human need be inconvenienced. Wireless charging has no benef…

I'm surprised it doesn't just have physical connection to the little stand it's sitting on.

30 years ago we figured out how to contact charge cordless phones with metal pads and prongs.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by ipnon »

HAL3000 wrote: post #78

All of the examples in videos are cherry picked. Go ask anyone working on humanoid robots today, almost everything you see here, if repeated 10 times, will enter failure mode because the happy path is so narrow. There should really be benchmarks where you invite robots from different companies, ask them beforehand about their capabilities, and then create an environment that is within those capabilities but was not u…

Now the question is if this is GPT-2 and we’re a decade away from autonomous androids given some scaling and tweaks, or if autonomous androids is just an extremely hard problem.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by proee »

elAhmo wrote: post #77
proee wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on the battery life. If the robot lasts all day, then charging at night via standing on a charging pad makes a lot of sense. Creating a removable battery pack adds extra weight and gives the designers less freedom to place the battery pack exactly where it needs to be in the robot frame, or distribute the cells across the frame in strategic locations. Also, the charge rate matters. If robot can charge to 8…

Almost all of those points are applicable for the battery pack as well. There should be virtually no weight difference, other than the design limitation which is a valid concern.

I suppose an external battery pack adds the bonus of doing a hard shutdown, in the case it decides to go rogue. Though getting to the battery pack might be hard if it resists you.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by robots0only »

HAL3000 wrote: post #78

All of the examples in videos are cherry picked. Go ask anyone working on humanoid robots today, almost everything you see here, if repeated 10 times, will enter failure mode because the happy path is so narrow. There should really be benchmarks where you invite robots from different companies, ask them beforehand about their capabilities, and then create an environment that is within those capabilities but was not u…

+100!!! Please don't fall for the HYPE.

The current best neural networks only have around 60% success rates for small horizon tasks (think 10-20 seconds e.g. pick up apple). That is why there is so much cut-motions in this video. The future will be awesome but it will take time a lot of research still needs to happen (e.g. robust hands, tactile, how to even collect large scale data, RL).

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