Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

blog.rchase.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

91–100 of 167 posts

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#91

Post by sejje »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #37
iEchoic wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can still "win" by taking money from the other human players and minimizing EV loss against bots. The major poker sites claim that they have really good (and very top secret) bot detection. I'm skeptical.

I used to work for an online poker outfit. The boss wanted weak bots populating the tables so that we looked popular. Of course, he had a “crack team” of bot writers for playing on “other sites” to make money, too.

The poker world would love to hear your story. It would be the biggest news in some time.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#92

Post by jliptzin »

raincole wrote: post #49
albatrossjr wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprisingly, no. Most sites do a good job of finding and banning bots. It's also fairly easy to spot a bot. They will make odd sized bets at times. You check to see if that betting line is taken in a solver.

Sites have very a strong incentive to make you believe this. Otherwise no human would join anymore.

That’s not true, people willingly put money into games that they know are heavily slanted against them all the time.

Even some people who are victims of scams admit that at the time they sent some/all of money they knew it was a scam but did it anyway.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#93

Post by bee_rider »

vmg12 wrote: post #69
Waterluvian wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. Poker isn’t actually hard to play perfectly if you’re writing a bot. The hard part is making it look authentic and not emit any patterns or other signals that could be detected in the data.

> Poker isn’t actually hard to play perfectly if you’re writing a bot Writing a winning poker bot is not trivial, you are unknowingly spreading false information.

Hmm… there are multiple variants of poker, at least one was weakly solved in 2015. I guess one could implement their algorithm. But I don’t know if the weakly solved variant of poker is popular?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cepheus_(poker_bot)

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#94

Post by bee_rider »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #37
iEchoic wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can still "win" by taking money from the other human players and minimizing EV loss against bots. The major poker sites claim that they have really good (and very top secret) bot detection. I'm skeptical.

I used to work for an online poker outfit. The boss wanted weak bots populating the tables so that we looked popular. Of course, he had a “crack team” of bot writers for playing on “other sites” to make money, too.

Wow, is that really not some type of fraud? Fascinating.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#95

Post by dddgghhbbfblk »

Cool_Caribou wrote: post #84
vmg12 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a software engineer with 10+ years of experience. I'm also a poker player that has a very deep understanding of the game. Writing a poker bot that can beat the game is absolutely not trivial. There are "solvers" that use counterfactual regret minimization to solve a constrained version of the game for specific scenarios. These are useful for understanding the principles of the game but they are not the cheat shee…

I'm an ex online poker pro. You probably don't have the deep understanding of the game you think you have. Bots were already destroying the field up to mid-stakes 10 years ago.

I'm a current online poker pro but probably not for much longer. Bots are a serious and real problem and they do beat the games for a good winrate. But it's still possible to make money even in environments with some bots as long as you can find games with fish. And some games on geofenced sites (the OP said they play in Michigan) or other small pools don't appear to have bot problems.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#96

Post by jonahx »

monero-xmr wrote: post #80
jonahx wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collusion in live poker, especially at low to mid-stakes, is almost non-existent.

I see it all the time at low stakes cash games. This is how people earn a living

I've played for years, in locations all across the US, and know many other people who've played much more. This is basically not a thing. I encountered it once, decades ago, at Hawaiian Gardens in SoCal. If it's happening regularly it's very obvious, and the floor will quickly become aware of it. As far as making a living, it's easier to learn how to beat live low stakes than to successfully collude, and the latter would be unlikely to help much if you weren't already beating the games.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#97

Post by LostMyLogin »

danbrooks wrote: post #32
mattmaroon wrote: post #19

I have to imagine bots have made online poker unwinnable by now, right?

I've heard (second-hand) that bots were instrumental in the decline of online poker popularity.

The decline of poker started when I woke up on Black Friday to FT, PS, and UB all having the DOJ logo on them.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#98

Post by GenerWork »

reillychase wrote: post #39
GenerWork wrote: post #36

If you're looking for a tool that may be a bit better than Cursor for UX, you could potentially look into Lovable. If you know what you want and the proper design terminology, you can potentially make some slick looking UIs.

Thanks! Can I use Lovable to design and then bring that back and have Cursor implement it?

Potentially. Like the other poster said, you can go through Github, but if worst comes to worst you could take screenshots of what Lovable makes and have Cursor modify the UI based on the screenshots. If you're using Sonnet 4.5 as a model it should be able to handle it pretty easily.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#99

Post by noitpmeder »

jliptzin wrote: post #92
raincole wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sites have very a strong incentive to make you believe this. Otherwise no human would join anymore.

That’s not true, people willingly put money into games that they know are heavily slanted against them all the time. Even some people who are victims of scams admit that at the time they sent some/all of money they knew it was a scam but did it anyway.

Sure but you shouldn't then trust their decision asking ability

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

#100

Post by noitpmeder »

brightball wrote: post #85
iEchoic wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can still "win" by taking money from the other human players and minimizing EV loss against bots. The major poker sites claim that they have really good (and very top secret) bot detection. I'm skeptical.

Why wouldn’t you put the bots together at the same table if you could detect them?

Because when, not if, but when, you have a false positive and put a player in a room full of bots you suddenly have a massive lawsuit on your hands
Post reply on HN