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Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by jabl »

piltdownman wrote: post #48
webdevver wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

genuinely, what is the survival story for qualcomm entering the next decade? - completely missed out on AI - phones become commodity, push for complete vertical integration from apple, google - squeezed by chinese soc vendors from 'below' (mediatek, unisoc) they're cooked, right? there's no way out, surely.

They just won a significant case in its licensing battle with Arm, securing rights to use Oryon cores in Snapdragon chips. Add in a decent x86 to ARM translation layer, and you have the basis of the next generation of handheld gaming. If Valve or someone paired with them for the next Steamdeck style project, they'd dominate. At the high-end they announced two new flagship processor platforms at its 2025 Snapdragon Su…

> They just won a significant case in its licensing battle with Arm, securing rights to use Oryon cores in Snapdragon chips.

As an aside, wonder how this will impact Qualcomm's RISC-V plans? They were apparently working on some RISC-V cores, but I wonder whether that was just a play to put pressure on Arm, or are they still planning on bringing those out to market?

(The "Arduino UNO Q" that they're launching now is based on a Cortex A53. One would think if they're serious about RISC-V they would start with this kind of things, as in low-end stuff for tinkerers.)

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by phoronixrly »

geerlingguy wrote: post #3

Additionally, they're launching their first joint product, the $44 Uno Q SBC, which has a Dragonwing SoC and STM32 microcontroller on an Uno form factor board[1]. It seems like Arduino will keep their brand, maintain their existing product lines, and continue building devices using other vendor's chips (besides Qualcomm), etc... but as with all acquisitions—I wonder how long that state of affairs will last. Alternati…

Were you paid to make this comment? As a youtuber, are you partnering with Qualcomm or Arduino and are you positioning their brands and products?

Edit: I see you already have a video out about the acquisition that looks a lot like an ad as well...

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

chpatrick wrote: post #29

ESP stuff is so damn cheap and capable now I'm not sure what you would use Arduino for these days.

The ATMega AVR devices are not cost effective for what they deliver. However, the new ATtiny 0/1/2-series devices are worthwhile for applications the Cortex-M devices aren't a good fit for. The Arduino ecosystem doesn't really acknowledge these parts.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by yaro330 »

webdevver wrote: post #10
murillians wrote: post #5

I only feel dread when I see a Qualcomm story on HN anymore.

genuinely, what is the survival story for qualcomm entering the next decade? - completely missed out on AI - phones become commodity, push for complete vertical integration from apple, google - squeezed by chinese soc vendors from 'below' (mediatek, unisoc) they're cooked, right? there's no way out, surely.

Cooked how exactly? - Completely missed out on the LLM boom, just like everyone except nvidia. - Apple never used qcom SoCs, just their modems, Google doesn't even register on the radar of sales, their first foray into SoCs isn't great. - Idk where you get that, they still hold the entire market in their firm grasp and Nuvia stuff has been nothing but outstanding, it's just a shame that MS are cowards and dropped the Windows-on-Arm stuff again. - Google are partnering with them for the Android on PC projects.

I hope they provide better Linux support for the next gen PC grade chips.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by dessimus »

ferguess_k wrote: post #85

My first instinct to this piece of news is a five-char word starting with 'S'. But reading through the news, it seems to be fine? > Arduino will preserve its open approach and community spirit while unlocking a full‑stack platform for modern development—with Arduino UNO Q as the first step. > The new Arduino UNO Q is a next-generation single board computer featuring a “dual brain” architecture—a Linux Debian-capable…

Yeah, and nothing was going to change when IBM acquired Red Hat.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by clarkmoreno »

webdevver wrote: post #62
piltdownman wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just won a significant case in its licensing battle with Arm, securing rights to use Oryon cores in Snapdragon chips. Add in a decent x86 to ARM translation layer, and you have the basis of the next generation of handheld gaming. If Valve or someone paired with them for the next Steamdeck style project, they'd dominate. At the high-end they announced two new flagship processor platforms at its 2025 Snapdragon Su…

>They just won a significant case in its licensing battle with Arm did you notice how ARMs stock jumped 5% after that ruling? that tells you everything you need to know. not to be reddity but reminds me of that scene from The Social Network, where Zuck's buddy couldn't udnerstand how the the record companies winning was actually a massive L. all the court proved was its total irrelevance to market forces, thats all.…

facts brother!

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by yaro330 »

greatgib wrote: post #88

Just wait for a few years and then you can forget everything about open or open source about Arduino. And maybe in 2030, you will only be able to run the Arduino IDE on Windows with a specific driver to ensure that you only flash a firmware to a DRM controlled authentic Arduino device. It is a nightmare when such an acquisition happen.

Qcom is one of the few SoC manufacturers in the Android space to do all their thing out in the open and properly honouring the GPL-v2 licences.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by bilekas »

ferguess_k wrote: post #85

My first instinct to this piece of news is a five-char word starting with 'S'. But reading through the news, it seems to be fine? > Arduino will preserve its open approach and community spirit while unlocking a full‑stack platform for modern development—with Arduino UNO Q as the first step. > The new Arduino UNO Q is a next-generation single board computer featuring a “dual brain” architecture—a Linux Debian-capable…

> Looks like they want to use the brand to push out their own stuffs, which seems to be reasonable. As long as they don't touch the education/OSS part I guess it will benefit both.

Given the current market for Qualcomm, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if in a few years they drop that education and OSS platform in favour of a paid approach. Recent Slack news doing the same has tainted my confidence.

33 Million audrino users, you can guarantee they want a piece of their wallets.

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