Are many HN members in Zürich? I was suprised to see this type of news with so many points, though it's quite amusing to see the mixture of different topics in the front page.
Zürich voters ban noisy leaf blowers
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#92Are many HN members in Zürich? I was suprised to see this type of news with so many points, though it's quite amusing to see the mixture of different topics in the front page.
Zurich and its environs are basically the Bay Area of Europe. Probably explains the huge concentration of HN users.
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Is that why some YouTubers started to make ads for a "sue your motorcycle speeding tickets invalid" company as if this is really working, because it is? Germany has such a specific way of making laws with holes.
I'm not so sure that's actually true, because when you get a speeding ticket, the owner absolutely is fined. He has a right to identify the driver or just take it on himself.
I really have no idea about all that. Just some absurdity I recently noticed.
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#94Are many HN members in Zürich? I was suprised to see this type of news with so many points, though it's quite amusing to see the mixture of different topics in the front page.
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#95honestly i don't get the point of leaf blowers, you move the leaves with an extremely loud gasoline powered machine from one place to another for what purpose, to make it someone else's problem and then they can blow them back?
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Hundreds of years gardening was done without leaf blowers. People used rakes. When you work in gardening, you are paid to do so. If people in Zürich decide to pay more for gardening and reduce noise, it's their decision. (though quite frankly, from using a rake myself and watching people here use leaf blowers, I'm not sure they are faster in any way)
this with leaf blowing, where do people blow their leaves/branches/trash to? to roads? to neighbors? making roads flood by blocking road drainage? what about all these noise and dust from leaf-blowing? (even not counting all those fuel burning...) maybe those leaf-blowing promoters are the "arseholes" ? just rake them, put them in big bags & compost them
Not everyone, sure, but this isn't an issue of rakes Vs leaf-blowers and it isn't the problem with two-stroke leaf blowers.
If anything, people with leaf blowers probably put more thought into what they do with their leaves, because they have a bigger volume of them to deal with.
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It is, if anything, anti-functional: unless it smothers everything the litter provides nitrogen and nutrients as it decomposes. Getting rid of all the litter for that “perfect lawn” requires re-introducing nitrogen artificially (historically lawns would be grown with clover, the clover being a nitrogen fixer for the grass, that stopped being a thing when people started widely applying broad-leaf herbicides like 2,4D,…
100%, like cutting grass, all the stuff you cut and move out of your lawn is nutrients leaving your soil, do that long enough and you'll get dead soil, then you'll need to buy compost... which is made from the leaves, grass cuts and bio trash that you city charges you to collect. It's a perfect cycle really. > the lawn industry then labelled clover a weed to make killing it a goal rather than a negative side effect P…
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#98Funnily, previously I lived next to a railway and also under fly path of airplanes and these sounds never bothered me. It's the tiny combustion engines that make high-pitched noises that are the worst.
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#99Are many HN members in Zürich? I was suprised to see this type of news with so many points, though it's quite amusing to see the mixture of different topics in the front page.
Yes and I am also surprised to see this news here. (I voted yes to the restriction) We also approved an initiative for cheaper public transport which is cool.
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At the Gold-coast the worst offenders are the Bugatti, Lotus and Ferrari leasers...how is it legal to be that loud??
People have loud motorbikes and cars because they want attention. It seems very fundamentally selfish. I've spent a lot of time in the countryside where there is a motorway in the distance, and the general low rumble road noise seems to be mostly the tires etc. But then sometimes a loud motorbike revs and that really carries and intrudes.