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Sora Update #1

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Re: Sora Update #1

#91

Post by reorder9695 »

martin-t wrote: post #46
ronsor wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing we need is an emergency copyright deprecation.

So people who spend time working on code or art should have exactly zero protection against somebody else just taking their work and using it to make money?

No, but the current system is totally idiotic. Why not have a fixed timeframe i.e. 30-50 years to make money? Life of the author + x years is stupid not only because it's way too long, it keeps going until way after the creator is no longer benefitting, and it can cause issues with works where you don't know who the author is so you can't cleanly say it's old enough not to have copyright.

I'm not sure for most (specifically smaller, who need the most protection) creators this would actually change very much. Media typically makes money in it's first few years of life, not 70 years on.

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by surrTurr »

> launch new sora update

> enable generating ghibli content since users are ADDICTED to that style

> willingly ignore the fact that the people who own this content don't want this

> wait a few days

> "ooooh we're so sorry for letting these users generate copyrighted content"

> disables it via some dumb ahh prompt detection algorithm

> dumb down the model and features even more

> add expensive pricing

> wait a few months

> launch new model without all of these restrictions again so that the difference to the new model feels insane

Re: Sora Update #1

#93

Post by sebzim4500 »

solid_fuel wrote: post #43

I don't understand some parts of this, the writing doesn't seem to flow logically from one thought to another. > Second, we are going to have to somehow make money for video generation. People are generating much more than we expected per user, and a lot of videos are being generated for very small audiences. > We are going to try sharing some of this revenue with rightsholders who want their characters generated by…

I don't get the confusion. He's saying that

(i) they will need to start charging money per generation (ii) they will share some of this money with rightsholders

Re: Sora Update #1

#94

Post by melvinmelih »

solid_fuel wrote: post #43

I don't understand some parts of this, the writing doesn't seem to flow logically from one thought to another. > Second, we are going to have to somehow make money for video generation. People are generating much more than we expected per user, and a lot of videos are being generated for very small audiences. > We are going to try sharing some of this revenue with rightsholders who want their characters generated by…

> After all, it's not like they could possibly identify every single living person and tie them to their likeness.

Wasn’t he literally scanning eye balls a couple years ago?

Re: Sora Update #1

#95

Post by amarcheschi »

piskov wrote: post #19

Broke: cure cancer, new physics, agi, take your jobs, what have you. Please give us a trillion. Woke: AI slop tictoc to waste millions of human-hours.

Almost as if the AGI talks were what a ceo would do to pump the hype of its company as much as possible

Re: Sora Update #1

#96

Post by amarcheschi »

eclipticplane wrote: post #58
piskov wrote: post #19

Broke: cure cancer, new physics, agi, take your jobs, what have you. Please give us a trillion. Woke: AI slop tictoc to waste millions of human-hours.

> AI slop tictoc to waste millions of human-hours. Don't forget the power it consumes from an already overloaded grid [while actively turning off new renewable power sources], the fresh water data centers consume for cooling, and the noise pollution forced on low-income residents.

As a european, i don't know if it's more funny or sad that american citizens close tho data centers are effectively subsidizing ai for the rest of the world by paying more for their electricity since the datacenters are mostly there

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by [deleted] »

surrTurr wrote: post #92

> launch new sora update > enable generating ghibli content since users are ADDICTED to that style > willingly ignore the fact that the people who own this content don't want this > wait a few days > "ooooh we're so sorry for letting these users generate copyrighted content" > disables it via some dumb ahh prompt detection algorithm > dumb down the model and features even more > add expensive pricing > wait a few mon…

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Re: Sora Update #1

#98

Post by samastur »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #93
solid_fuel wrote: post #43

I don't understand some parts of this, the writing doesn't seem to flow logically from one thought to another. > Second, we are going to have to somehow make money for video generation. People are generating much more than we expected per user, and a lot of videos are being generated for very small audiences. > We are going to try sharing some of this revenue with rightsholders who want their characters generated by…

I don't get the confusion. He's saying that (i) they will need to start charging money per generation (ii) they will share some of this money with rightsholders

they will TRY to share this money ;)

Re: Sora Update #1

#99

Post by redserk »

signatoremo wrote: post #60
CPLX wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. If you read between the lines that’s clearly it. And on that note can I add how much I truly despise sentences like this: > We are hearing from a lot of rightsholders who are very excited for this new kind of "interactive fan fiction" and think this new kind of engagement will accrue a lot of value to them, but want the ability to specify how their characters can be used (including not at all). To me this sen…

You may not like their message, but the style can be found in practically any public communication from any corporation. Read a layoff announcement from Novo Nordisk as an example [1]. No difference. This is what I don’t like about HN, manufactured outrage when one dislikes the messenger. No substance whatsoever. When users are given such a powerful tool like Sora, there will naturally be conflicts. If one makes a vi…

If we’re going on HN rants, this bizarre tendency of reframing the blatantly obvious into something it isn’t doesn’t help any argument.

The messenger isn’t some random, disconnected third party here.

Re: Sora Update #1

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Post by qlm »

simianparrot wrote: post #90

> In particular, we'd like to acknowledge the remarkable creative output of Japan--we are struck by how deep the connection between users and Japanese content is! Translation from snake speech bs: We've been threatened by Japanese artists via their lawyers that unless we remove the "Ghibli" feature that earned us so much money, and others like it, we're going to get absolutely destroyed in court.

> Japanese “content”

Sickening

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