The US is going down the gutter, it's sad and pathetic.
going down? we are deep in cesspool
Who would want to live in a cesspool?
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Protecting us against Schrödinger's immigrant: Both stealing our jobs AND too lazy to do any work. /s
Willing to work for less than an American, but somehow doesn’t drive wages down for Americans. Lives in American housing yet somehow doesn’t drive up the cost of housing. Creates ethnic enclaves which mostly speak their own languages yet somehow assimilate into American culture. The left has plenty of its own contradictory arguments.
> Willing to work for less than an American, but somehow doesn’t drive wages down for Americans.
Yeah, they obviously do. That's plain bullshit.
.... ooooon the other hand, we've never tried having an economy without them. We didn't meaningfully limit migration from elsewhere in the Americas until like the '50s, and at the time beginning such enforcement was controversial because we already used them for a ton of cheap farm labor and farmers' interest groups thought it'd ruin them if we significantly limited such migration. The reason their fears didn't manifest as reality is that we simply, and at least in part on purpose, never bothered to enforce those new laws as completely as we technically could, especially for farm labor.
So like they do lower wages (again: obviously) but also they always have, so removing them is a big change from the status quo of practically the entire history of the country's economy. I dunno, worth looking at I guess, but I personally would want to ease into it in case it turns out to be a bad idea.
> Lives in American housing yet somehow doesn’t drive up the cost of housing.
I think the cheap-labor effect on construction probably outweighs this by a good margin. But maybe not.
> Creates ethnic enclaves which mostly speak their own languages yet somehow assimilate into American culture.
Eh. That complaint has been leveled against every prior migrant group, and hasn't held up over the long haul. Even prior waves of hispanic immigrants. I'd need a reason to think it's different this time to give this any credence whatsoever.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The world continues to spin. It kept spinning while millions were murdered during WWII as well. Did you have an actual point to make or did you just come here to be dismissive?
Yes, and has continued to spin over millions of years as various atrocities have occurred. The question for everyone: what are you going to do about it?
I won't be dismissing it with a trite line like "the world keeps spinning", for a start. Secondly, I am politically active and engaged, which is the most effective way to effect change right now.
Encouraging others to actually engage with politics instead of being dismissive, with the goal to build a coalition of people who want to protect our rights against this consolidating dictatorship.
You want to do something about it? Call your senator and voice your opinion.
Your senators and congress critters suck? Find a local challenger and work to build pressure against your sitting reps.
You think nothing can be done? Get out of the way.
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And half of the country is cheering them on.
Liberals and conservatives don't split support in the country 50/50. It's more like 20/20 and then that apathetic majority who can't be bothered to care enough to even vote is the rest. Given the nature of liberal and conservative policies, we can all probably see why many of them would be apathetic if we're being honest. But I'm sure those people aren't cheering. They're moreso saying, "See. I told ya so." To any fr…
The apathetic majority are just as responsible as the group supporting the current power
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#96The social media companies must dislike this as it'll make people even less likely to post anything
Re: ICE Wants to Build Out a 24/7 Social Media Surveillance Team
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, and has continued to spin over millions of years as various atrocities have occurred. The question for everyone: what are you going to do about it?
I won't be dismissing it with a trite line like "the world keeps spinning", for a start. Secondly, I am politically active and engaged, which is the most effective way to effect change right now. Encouraging others to actually engage with politics instead of being dismissive, with the goal to build a coalition of people who want to protect our rights against this consolidating dictatorship. You want to do something a…
Hey, more power to you! Fight for the change you want to see. I would like all people, of all political persuasions, to fight for the change they want to see.
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All those out of work programmers here's an opprotunity to create some disruption, pad your resume, and possibly create a job. While we still have a free internet, it would be great to see efforts to create technology to replace centralized social media, cloud-tech, and businesses. We need to make it so fucking hard for the gov, advertisers to get access to your data that it very expensive to maintain a system like t…
The network effect and the funding is the hard part. People want to be on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram because they spend billions hosting images for free and they have a million para social friends there Any competitor will have to compete not on technical competence or privacy, but on "can I upload lots of HD video?" and "are my favorite celebrities there?" Offramps to let people migrate easier, syndication to…
Facebook, Twitter and Instagram all took advantage of "viral marketing", ontop of lots of venture funding for advertising potential.
Distributed/P2P tech is essential because of the income from marketing maintains these systems, selling user data. P2P changes that by allowing people to own their data and share it their way. User-Hosting shouldn't be such a wild idea in 2025, especially if its like IPFS based which already has infrastructure for low-effort hosting such as a chrome plugin.
As long as transition is easy I dont see why change cant happen. A browser plugin to scrap your existing profiles and bring them to NEWSITE.com is all thats needed
There's No reason change cant happen especially when so many people see social media as despotic, and gov takeover of tiktok beckons. Be the motherfucking change yo!
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reading public posts on a website is not the same as reading people’s private mail though. Not really an equivalent comparison IMO.
The distinction between public and private is obvious to the initiated, but probably not to everyone. e.g. https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/charlie-kirk-assassination... With the right sorts of access given by companies seeking to avoid the ire of the administration, I'm pretty sure even private profiles could be considered to be public.
>I'm pretty sure even private profiles could be considered to be public.
I don’t think there’s any evidence that this is happening, the article itself talks about public posts.
It’s well established that if you post evidence of a crime publicly on social media the government will find it and use it. Illegal immigration is a crime by definition, using public information to find people who committed this crime is not the same as reading private mail.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Willing to work for less than an American, but somehow doesn’t drive wages down for Americans. Lives in American housing yet somehow doesn’t drive up the cost of housing. Creates ethnic enclaves which mostly speak their own languages yet somehow assimilate into American culture. The left has plenty of its own contradictory arguments.
> Willing to work for less than an American, but somehow doesn’t drive wages down for Americans. Yeah, they obviously do. That's plain bullshit. .... ooooon the other hand, we've never tried having an economy without them. We didn't meaningfully limit migration from elsewhere in the Americas until like the '50s, and at the time beginning such enforcement was controversial because we already used them for a ton of che…
>Yeah, they obviously do. That's plain bullshit.
Well heck, I see an awful lot of people on the internet trying to argue that they somehow don’t drive wages down for Americans. The number of foreign born people living in the USA is at an all time high, over 5 times larger than what it was in the middle of the last century. Being able to throw cheap labor at a problem is a crutch that keeps people from having to innovate or pay their own countrymen a decent wage. The same argument was used by pro-slavery folks back in the day. “Who will pick the cotton?” was seen as a compelling argument. But when your business is forced to deal with a problem instead of throwing cheap labor at it, you often come up with much better ways to do things and your own fellow citizens share the benefits as well.
>cheap-labor effect on construction probably outweighs this by a good margin
The data shows clearly that immigrants drive up the cost of housing by increasing demand. Americans built our own housing for most of our history, this trend of cheap immigrant labor working most of the construction jobs was not always the case. We could afford to pay construction workers a little bit more and the cost of housing would be more than offset by the reduced housing demand.
>hasn't held up over the long haul
It has absolutely held up, take a trip to any major US city and visit one of its many ethnic enclaves. Many areas of Los Angeles speak exclusively Spanish, you can visit neighborhoods that are indistinguishable from a city in Mexico. The problem is so glaring that the left has switched tactics and hardly even argues that assimilation occurs anymore, rather they argue that “multiculturalism” is the new thing we are supposed to support. Where ethnic enclaves live alongside each other.