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Re: The Faroes

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Post by hdgvhicv »

rkomorn wrote: post #25
kakacik wrote: post #21

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What do you mean eating horses is not OK, in Switzerland we have plenty of horse butchers, you can find horse meat products like salami in all bigger supermarkets. Its not consumed in same amounts as beef for sure, but its not shunned by most. And yes there is no logical reason to eat beef (especially calves if we consider the cuteness factor) but not horses, horse meat is even healtier.

I'm not sure how "it's okay in !" is really relevant, TBH. There are plenty of places where it's not considered okay by a significant portion of the population, so it's a pretty valid to use it as an example of an inconsistency.

You said eating pigs is ok, massive numbers of countries don’t have pork on the menu. You said eating beef is ok, yet go to India and try that

Your culture thinks eating horse is bad, other cultures it’s fine, but beef or pork is bad.

Even dog and cat are quite common in many countries.

Re: The Faroes

#92

Post by rkomorn »

hdgvhicv wrote: post #91
rkomorn wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how "it's okay in !" is really relevant, TBH. There are plenty of places where it's not considered okay by a significant portion of the population, so it's a pretty valid to use it as an example of an inconsistency.

You said eating pigs is ok, massive numbers of countries don’t have pork on the menu. You said eating beef is ok, yet go to India and try that Your culture thinks eating horse is bad, other cultures it’s fine, but beef or pork is bad. Even dog and cat are quite common in many countries.

It's an example of an inconsistency that people have when it comes to what they're willing to eat.

It does not have to be a universal truth.

Re: The Faroes

#93

Post by graemep »

hermitcrab wrote: post #71
rkomorn wrote: post #13

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It's probably because a lot of people see whales and other large sea mammals (and some large land mammals) as much closer to humans than say, tuna. I'm not going to argue about whether or not that's a correct take. And yes, there are plenty of very arguable inconsistencies (eg: eating pigs and cows is okay, eating horses is not) in how people look at animal consumption, but I don't particularly think that invalidates…

>eating pigs and cows is okay, eating horses is not This is the situation in the UK. Some people trace it back to chivalry, where horses were very expensive and mostly owned by the nobility. But I don't know if that is the real reason. Although it turned out that British people have been eating plenty of horse. They just didn't know it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21375594

I think it is because of the popularity of riding, people are used to seeing horses in that role. Not quite pets, but in a relationship to people closer to that of dogs and cats than that of farm animals.

Re: The Faroes

#94

Post by NostraDavid »

kulahan wrote: post #52
halgir wrote: post #40

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I dislike Sea Shepherd as an organization, due to their distasteful methods (and personal bias, being a Faroese resident). But I spoke with several of their volunteers during one of their campaigns, and was pleased to realize that, as individuals, their hearts are mostly in the right place. Nearly all of them claimed to be vegan, which I feel does give you legitimate ethical grounds from which to criticize grindadráp…

Most animals these days are killed as efficiently as possible - a quick stun for chickens, a bolt through the skull for cows, etc. The problem with commercial meat production is pretty much always the mega-farms that have them in horrible conditions during life. It's just cheaper, easier, and results in tastier meat to quickly perform the slaughter.

Note that "religious meat" can be cruel for certain animals as well. Chickens are still a quick stun, IIRC, but cows are brutalized - they basically slowly drown in their own blood, because of the way they are slaughtered to be Halal.

And then companies try to push for more Halal meat, because there are fewer rules to account for, when it comes to Halal (great way for them to skirt the law, legally). The chicken supposedly tastes better, though.

Re: The Faroes

#95

Post by boombaby97 »

I was there a few years back, was absolutely incredible! Really special time. I used this this travel agency called remót travel which planned some fantastic hikes, we ate with locals, met artists, and even the prime minister (pretty funny, such a small country haha). Highly recommend for people (although I don't know if the Faroes has gotten more crowded now like Iceland)

Re: The Faroes

#96

Post by tengbretson »

kulahan wrote: post #52
halgir wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dislike Sea Shepherd as an organization, due to their distasteful methods (and personal bias, being a Faroese resident). But I spoke with several of their volunteers during one of their campaigns, and was pleased to realize that, as individuals, their hearts are mostly in the right place. Nearly all of them claimed to be vegan, which I feel does give you legitimate ethical grounds from which to criticize grindadráp…

Most animals these days are killed as efficiently as possible - a quick stun for chickens, a bolt through the skull for cows, etc. The problem with commercial meat production is pretty much always the mega-farms that have them in horrible conditions during life. It's just cheaper, easier, and results in tastier meat to quickly perform the slaughter.

Hogs are routinely slaughtered by asphyxiation in a room pumped full of co2. By comparison the dolphins are getting off easy.

Re: The Faroes

#98

Post by trallnag »

NostraDavid wrote: post #94
kulahan wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most animals these days are killed as efficiently as possible - a quick stun for chickens, a bolt through the skull for cows, etc. The problem with commercial meat production is pretty much always the mega-farms that have them in horrible conditions during life. It's just cheaper, easier, and results in tastier meat to quickly perform the slaughter.

Note that "religious meat" can be cruel for certain animals as well. Chickens are still a quick stun, IIRC, but cows are brutalized - they basically slowly drown in their own blood, because of the way they are slaughtered to be Halal. And then companies try to push for more Halal meat, because there are fewer rules to account for, when it comes to Halal (great way for them to skirt the law, legally). The chicken supp…

Should be banned. Too bad European countries are bending over backwards to accommodate just as backwards beliefs.

Re: The Faroes

#99

Post by Xss3 »

tengbretson wrote: post #96
kulahan wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most animals these days are killed as efficiently as possible - a quick stun for chickens, a bolt through the skull for cows, etc. The problem with commercial meat production is pretty much always the mega-farms that have them in horrible conditions during life. It's just cheaper, easier, and results in tastier meat to quickly perform the slaughter.

Hogs are routinely slaughtered by asphyxiation in a room pumped full of co2. By comparison the dolphins are getting off easy.

Switching the gas to nitrogen would result in a relatively peaceful passing by comparison. Shame.

Re: The Faroes

#100

Post by Xss3 »

NostraDavid wrote: post #94
kulahan wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most animals these days are killed as efficiently as possible - a quick stun for chickens, a bolt through the skull for cows, etc. The problem with commercial meat production is pretty much always the mega-farms that have them in horrible conditions during life. It's just cheaper, easier, and results in tastier meat to quickly perform the slaughter.

Note that "religious meat" can be cruel for certain animals as well. Chickens are still a quick stun, IIRC, but cows are brutalized - they basically slowly drown in their own blood, because of the way they are slaughtered to be Halal. And then companies try to push for more Halal meat, because there are fewer rules to account for, when it comes to Halal (great way for them to skirt the law, legally). The chicken supp…

The only reason it tastes better is because its not factory farm sourced in the same way and youre closer to the slaughter date when consuming it. Massive suppliers control the entire chain including slaughter. Halal suppliers or live chicken suppliers tend to be smaller operations.
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