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Re: The Apple Reaper

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I'd certainly agree that Mobile Safari is superior to the stock Gingerbread browser (and even the stock ICS browser, to a lesser extent). That being said, are you asserting that Mobile Safari is "hands down" better than other members of the current generation of mobile browsers (Chrome for Android, Firefox Mobile, Opera Mobile, etc.)? To me, that seems like a much, much harder case to make.

First and most importantly lets highlight an exceptionally important issue that well equipped web developers _always_ seem to forget: 2.X was 84% of Android market share as recently as a month ago. ICS and Jellybean are tiny by comparison. Leaving that aside, Android's stock browser and Chrome still has serious issues with CSS based transformations and animations on non-trivial pages which mobile safari has handled w…

> First and most importantly lets highlight an exceptionally important issue that well equipped web developers _always_ seem to forget: 2.X was 84% of Android market share as recently as a month ago. ICS and Jellybean are tiny by comparison.

Fair point, but... the overwhelming majority of those users (2.2+) can use the latest Firefox, nearly all of them (1.6+) can use the latest Opera and most (2.3+) will be able to use the latest Dolphin when it comes out of beta. All of these browsers are leaps and bounds ahead the stock Android browser for 2.X and Android lets users change the default browser nearly seamlessly.

Now, granted, none of these browsers is considered important today because they have little to no mobile penetration, but then, mobile web developers could influence that, if they chose to.

Re: The Apple Reaper

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Well, I am just glad that Android, Windows Phone and Windows 8 store apps don't have this stupid restriction if you don't use their payment systems. Walled garden and 30% forced cut of app sales is one thing, but a forced 30% cut of every in-app sale is like erecting a toll booth on all apps. Gruber's explanation of "Apple does it because it can, and the people complaining are just jealous that Apple can and they can…

I was very excited about Apple for about a decade now, but this walled garden is really getting to me. I doubt I'll be buying any new Apple hardware in the future, and I'll pivot to developing for the web instead of making apps as soon as I can.

Oh, how you will miss that walled garden then :)

Re: The Apple Reaper

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Well, I am just glad that Android, Windows Phone and Windows 8 store apps don't have this stupid restriction if you don't use their payment systems. Walled garden and 30% forced cut of app sales is one thing, but a forced 30% cut of every in-app sale is like erecting a toll booth on all apps. Gruber's explanation of "Apple does it because it can, and the people complaining are just jealous that Apple can and they can…

So Gruber is some kind of paid blogger for Apple? His stuff always ends up on the front page of HN. What's up with that?

The church of Apple likes reading nice things about itself.

There's lots of people religiously invested in Apple here on HN, which seems to have Apple (and it's share-price) as the better part of their identity.

It's a bit awkward for sure.

Re: The Apple Reaper

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I don't understand how it is possible that Stripe is not allowed to have this functionality but Square is. Certainly Square does not give 30% to Apple for every swipe. The cross-platform bit is interesting though. This should send a clear message to developers that they should go with ANDROID FIRST.

Square employs a significant number of ex-Apple guys. That might have something to do with it :-)

So working with Apple means walled gardens and corruption? That just makes it sound so much better!

Re: The Apple Reaper

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So Gruber is some kind of paid blogger for Apple? His stuff always ends up on the front page of HN. What's up with that?

The church of Apple likes reading nice things about itself. There's lots of people religiously invested in Apple here on HN, which seems to have Apple (and it's share-price) as the better part of their identity. It's a bit awkward for sure.

Would HN actually affect the price of AAPL though?

Why would they care about HN if HN readers are not all Apple worshippers?

Re: The Apple Reaper

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Hey, I for one am glad Apple is encouraging developers to build apps for Android. Maybe developers will actually start developing for Android first, considering this keeps happening, and worst case scenario, they remain with the Android app, if Apple completely rejects it. If they have just the iOS app, they might just give up for good. The fact that Google has just made a Java 2 Object-C translator tool and that the…

yeah well except for the fact that you really dont make us any money. we make android apps because we are expected to, not because its a good business decision....

That's rapidly changing: http://www.swiftkey.net/android-catching-up-with-iphone-on-p...

Re: The Apple Reaper

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First and most importantly lets highlight an exceptionally important issue that well equipped web developers _always_ seem to forget: 2.X was 84% of Android market share as recently as a month ago. ICS and Jellybean are tiny by comparison. Leaving that aside, Android's stock browser and Chrome still has serious issues with CSS based transformations and animations on non-trivial pages which mobile safari has handled w…

> First and most importantly lets highlight an exceptionally important issue that well equipped web developers _always_ seem to forget: 2.X was 84% of Android market share as recently as a month ago. ICS and Jellybean are tiny by comparison. Fair point, but... the overwhelming majority of those users (2.2+) can use the latest Firefox, nearly all of them (1.6+) can use the latest Opera and most (2.3+) will be able to…

So in theory Android browser feature support could be mostly ok, but in practice it isn't and won't be for the foreseeable future?
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