DAW stands for Digital Audio Workstation (to save anyone else who didn't know from looking it up). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_workstation
Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW
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#92Before AI there was a general consensus that creative areas (eg. Cities) were becoming a homogenized experience. A Starbuckization if you will. I can’t help but wonder what gets lost when using tools like this.
Since you get exactly the kind of music you want, I think it leads to extremely small bubbles, which is pretty much the opposite of homogeneity.
For example, I had never heard epic power metal about birds, but with Suno I got exactly what I wanted. Sure, the sound quality (I only used v3.5) could be better and the songs could be longer, but I don’t care, I now have epic songs about my Bourke’s parakeet. However, I’m not pretentious enough to think those songs are interesting to anyone other than my wife and me, hence the smallness of the bubble.
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#93What's special about Suno 5 is that the songs are actually good to listen to in place of professionally produced songs. For example, my favorite genre is new jack swing and there is a very limited number of this genre as it was briefly popular during the 90s. Now I have an endless supply of it and you can't tell that its AI produced anymore. Sure to an expert they might be able to detect it but for consumers its just…
I've had some fun with Suno 5, but the songs absolutely don't replace well-made human music. They're much more formulaic and over-produced. They're usually forgettable. People I play them for can always tell they're AI produced.
True music enthusiasts will holdout for a while but I think AI music will easily replace most Pop currently on the radio and streaming for your average Joe. That stuff has been "fake" as early as the mid 2000's by being quantized straight to the grid, pitched, with programmed drums, guitar, even vocals and then churned out like widgets on a conveyor belt.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
By underdog I meant the above HN commenter wanting to prove to us that the AI-created songs he likes are actually considered good by others.
I actually have listen to all the links people posted. They are not that bad. But when they say it can replace Pop music I can only laugh. It is the most boring early 2000 RnB ever created and it souns thin. Any Aphex Twin model out there?
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#95> Commercial use rights for songs made while subscribed
LOL oh hell no! Why would anyone use this if a perpetual subscription is required to maintain the rights? Absurd.
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#96Meanwhile I've mixed a song of mine down on a Tascam 688 8-track tape recorder. I have a big smile on my face because I find this very enjoyable. The haptics, the sound and my hand-crafted product. A piece of art made by a human. No AI will replace this for me.
Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW
#97Suno is moving toward becoming a browser-based DAW that happens to use AI. There are already more capable and established DAWs, and I see no reason they can't implement AI into their workflows-- in a more precise manner, where it's actually useful, instead of wholesale as a gimmick. Many are already doing this. So I don't understand where Suno is going with any of this. It either needs to be: 1. So easy anyone can pr…
Yes I'm already doing this manually with Reason. I'll compose something that's quite bare bones, export the audio and run it through Suno, asking it to cover and improvise with a specific style, then when I have something I like, I split that into stems, import some or all of these to Reason and then reconstruct and enhance the sound using instruments in Reason, mostly by replaying the parts I like on keyboard and tw…
That's the same process as AI-assisted coding. Or AI-assisted writing. Or AI-assisted anything.
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#98Meanwhile I've mixed a song of mine down on a Tascam 688 8-track tape recorder. I have a big smile on my face because I find this very enjoyable. The haptics, the sound and my hand-crafted product. A piece of art made by a human. No AI will replace this for me.
I'm pretty sure your creation will be more interesting than any AI-generated "art".
Suno can create catchy songs and succeed in matching genre expectations / cliches.
I've been in phases where I had output I generated with it playing in my head constantly (due to repeated listening).
The output was catchy.
Then tried to generate interesting music, failed spectacularly.
And I, among other stuff, enjoy a lot of music that people consider formulaic, abstract or straight-up boring.
What's missing in AI "art" is intent and well... creativity.
I think it will have a disrupting influence on commercial pop culture, no question.
I also wouldn't claim to be able to classify correctly whether something is AI output.
But art is something entirely different.
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#99What's special about Suno 5 is that the songs are actually good to listen to in place of professionally produced songs. For example, my favorite genre is new jack swing and there is a very limited number of this genre as it was briefly popular during the 90s. Now I have an endless supply of it and you can't tell that its AI produced anymore. Sure to an expert they might be able to detect it but for consumers its just…
> as a consumer I could care less if you put your soul and years into producing art vs the one I can get a lot of today a quantity over quality argument with regard to art is wild.
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#100I consider myself an amateur musician and pulled a decent side hustle teaching piano back in university. I also worked the occasional gig as a cocktail pianist.
I've actually had a lot of fun using tools like Suno/Udio as a means of sonic exploration to see how some of my older compositions would sound in different mediums.
When I composed this piece of classical music practically a decade ago, it was intended for strings but at the time I only played piano so that's where it stayed. By increasing the "Audio Influence Slider", Suno arranged it in a chamber quartet style but stayed nearly 1:1 faithful with the original in terms of melody / structure.
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