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Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

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Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

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I don’t get it, if you go to a coffee shop for the coffee, why wouldn’t you just get your coffee and go? You’re complaining that other people are sitting… because you also want to sit? What else are you going to do? Sit and scroll through your phone?

As opposed to sitting on an overpriced laptop all day taking up space other people might want to use as well as costing a business time and money in lost custom so you can spend the day treating the coffee shop like rented office space? What about patrons with disabilities? Patrons that might want to use the coffee shop to meet someone and talk to them and socialise? If you want to use a coffee shop as a work hub eit…

The funny thing is I’ve never seen a Starbucks so packed that there is no where to sit if you just want to drink coffee and scroll on your phone or talk to someone.

And yet, there’s definitely times where there’s too many people to find a good place to sit and work for a few hours.

Starbucks understands this tension and seems to create sitting areas that are designed for both types of individuals.

Unlike indie coffeeshops which have the same kind of seating for every customer and says fuck you to remote workers if they linger too long.

This is why I just keep going to Starbucks. It’s a rare example of a big corp being less hostile to customers than equivalent small businesses.

Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

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In the US specialty coffee shops may be just as expensive or more expensive than Starbucks. Starbucks doesn't make good coffee, however they're main competitors in the US are basically Dunkin Donuts, McDonalds, or various regional/local chains. So they are often better than the competitors, since Dunkin Donuts is not as consistent of quality, and McDonalds isn't really a cafe (despite being one of the largest coffee…

I agree the coffee at starbucks isn't great, but I feel the coffee at dunkin and mcdonalds are both better than starbucks. I like black coffee though, and Starbucks drip or americano just isn't good - I see starbucks more as a desert place than a coffee place, and judged on that they're good. I think more people want sweet milky coffees, and that's fine. That plus the environment is a big pull of Starbucks. It's not…

The SB blonde roast is a lot better than Dunkin or McDonalds, in my opinion.

Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

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As opposed to sitting on an overpriced laptop all day taking up space other people might want to use as well as costing a business time and money in lost custom so you can spend the day treating the coffee shop like rented office space? What about patrons with disabilities? Patrons that might want to use the coffee shop to meet someone and talk to them and socialise? If you want to use a coffee shop as a work hub eit…

The funny thing is I’ve never seen a Starbucks so packed that there is no where to sit if you just want to drink coffee and scroll on your phone or talk to someone. And yet, there’s definitely times where there’s too many people to find a good place to sit and work for a few hours. Starbucks understands this tension and seems to create sitting areas that are designed for both types of individuals. Unlike indie coffee…

The Starbucks in Yucca Valley and TwentyNine Palms, CA both are often without available seating due to people on laptops not spending money. At least that was true when I was in the area a couple years ago.

Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

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I never understood Starbucks. I live in Europe, we have good coffee places everywhere. They are cheaper and serve significantly better coffee. I can't think of anything I ordered from Starbucks that didn't taste artificial.

I went to Starbucks a lot in Japan because they have a lot of nice non-coffee drinks and have fast + reliable WiFi. A lot of young people go there to work and study too so I didn’t feel out of place.

Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

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They blow it more than half the time when it comes to regular drip coffee. I still remember my first starbucks visit as a 13 y.o. Sitting down, having a coffee, not knowing what caffeine was, and having the best conversation of my life.

Sometimes I think Starbucks is more properly classified as a milkshake joint. The calories !

Yeah, every generation seems to reinvent the malt shop in America.

The next iteration might be whoever builds the Starbucks of boba tea.

Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

#97

I never understood Starbucks. I live in Europe, we have good coffee places everywhere. They are cheaper and serve significantly better coffee. I can't think of anything I ordered from Starbucks that didn't taste artificial.

I go to Starbucks for the co-working vibes, not the coffee. When are small coffee shops going to understand, if you have a 1 hour limit on how long I can sit there on my laptop (if you even allow laptops), I’m not going to go to your shop. Coffee doesn’t matter, it’s all the same shit. Starbucks has never cared if I buy one coffee and then sit there all day.

> Coffee doesn’t matter, it’s all the same shit.

I don't think this is categorically true, while many are the same, you can definitely taste the difference between different beans and styles of coffee. A latte is very different to a cold brew, for example! Calling it all the same is very dismissive, and more importantly, inaccurate.

Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

#98

Feel bad for those employees. In the last 10 years I've gotten Starbucks maybe twice, both times because we were on the road and needed coffee... and it was the only option. A true fall from grace; The drinks are either sugar bombs or taste burnt and corp loves union busting.

Try the blonde roast espresso. It doesn't have that over-roasted taste.

Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

#99
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Sometimes I think Starbucks is more properly classified as a milkshake joint. The calories !

Yeah, every generation seems to reinvent the malt shop in America. The next iteration might be whoever builds the Starbucks of boba tea.

Gong Cha? Chatime? Here in Canada both of those seem to be expanding rapidly.

Re: Starbucks: Location closures and elimination of roles

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I never understood Starbucks. I live in Europe, we have good coffee places everywhere. They are cheaper and serve significantly better coffee. I can't think of anything I ordered from Starbucks that didn't taste artificial.

It's not about the coffee because it's a lifestyle brand that sells pseudo-prestige to the pseudo-affluent. It's overpriced and a marginal product.
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