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Re: Helium Browser

#91

Post by GodelNumbering »

I have felt like a perennial browser refugee for a while. For about 20 years now (since OG Firefox was at peak and Chrome was not yet launched), every new browser promises the same things, gets popular enough, then does a full or partial 180.

While I like the pitch of this browser, I find it a little difficult to take it at the face value, especially given there is no info on the founders, or whether it is run as a company or a non-profit etc.

Perhaps someone in this thread could answer: which company/org structure provides best guarantees against gradual, slow, multi-year rot that seems to take over everything?

I would happily pay a small monthly subscription fee for a browser if it has strong legally protected privacy guarantees.

Re: Helium Browser

#92

Post by xigoi »

ayaros wrote: post #17

Why did anyone think it was a good idea to put tabs in the title bar. How the hell am I supposed to easily drag a window if I have 100 tabs open? Who the hell thought this was a good idea? Why do I feel like the only sane human being left on Earth? Why is this project continuing to use this horrible UI convention? How are they going to make money or enshittify this in the future or sell it off to an evil billion doll…

I’d rather ask, why are desktop environments continuing to use the horrible UI convention of stacking window managers? In a tiling window manager, there is no reason to waste space on a draggable window bar.

Re: Helium Browser

#93

Post by hooverd »

indiebat wrote: post #44
Daedren wrote: post #25

>We'll keep support for MV2 extensions for as long as possible. This doesn't particularly give people any confidence in your product if even the devs don't know how long they can hold the line. Why not fork Firefox like Zen?

I know this is unfair to firefox, majority of enterprise software now (including and starting with Microsoft teams) outright say do not support firefox or have ‘limited’ support whatever that means. For anyone working remotely like me, teams is a crucial piece of software (however bad it is). So as much as I like Firefox and legends that started it and religiously developed it over the years, bottom line, I can’t use…

Firefox has been so far so good for me, in terms of support.

Re: Helium Browser

#94

Post by dialup_sounds »

Unai wrote: post #60
the_real_cher wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you using instead?

Not OP, but I use vertical tabs with Vivaldi. Pretty happy with it; I tried basically all browsers out there, fully switching to them for some time even if I didn't even like them, and after all that time I found Vivaldi the best overall browser right now (for me).

+1 for Vivaldi, so many options

Re: Helium Browser

#96

Post by snapplebobapple »

zenmac wrote: post #90
MountDoom wrote: post #16

What makes me a bit uneasy about the project is that the website doesn't explain who is building it. For most open-source, I think that would be fine. But browsers auto-update, so their vendors essentially have the continued ability to run code on your machine. You want some confidence that they won't get owned and won't sell the access to bad actors down the line, so there is an element of personal trust. All the we…

Well it is just one those element naming chrome fork. Kinda like: https://iridiumbrowser.de/ But that one looks have not being updated in a while. But what is the point forking Chrome browser now days since manifest 3? I switched back to firefox/librawolf for now.

Try zen browser its my favorite firefox fork with only a few extensions

Re: Helium Browser

#97

Post by h4ch1 »

Is there a reason for not having Issues on their main repo? Especially since they're in a beta stage; they don't have to fix/acknowledge all issues, but as an end-user they're pretty useful for debugging, seeing actual human feedback.

Re: Helium Browser

#98

Post by ashikns »

GodelNumbering wrote: post #91

I have felt like a perennial browser refugee for a while. For about 20 years now (since OG Firefox was at peak and Chrome was not yet launched), every new browser promises the same things, gets popular enough, then does a full or partial 180. While I like the pitch of this browser, I find it a little difficult to take it at the face value, especially given there is no info on the founders, or whether it is run as a c…

I feel the same. For now, I've made peace with having to switch to "whatever is the latest maintained fork with privacy defaults" every 6 months. Hopefully Ladybird becomes a usable browser sometime soon.

Re: Helium Browser

#99

Post by notpushkin »

zamadatix wrote: post #56
indiebat wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this is unfair to firefox, majority of enterprise software now (including and starting with Microsoft teams) outright say do not support firefox or have ‘limited’ support whatever that means. For anyone working remotely like me, teams is a crucial piece of software (however bad it is). So as much as I like Firefox and legends that started it and religiously developed it over the years, bottom line, I can’t use…

> majority of enterprise software now (including and starting with Microsoft teams) outright say do not support firefox Teams has explicitly supported Firefox for a while now https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/teams-clien... but the problem is "there's always another site that doesn't work right". Firefox usage share got too low, so places just check Chrom* and Safari work with the new feature and ship…

> there's always another site that doesn't work right

I keep hearing it, but personally I’ve only come across one recently (a site was running some tracking bullshit that broke on FF). And there’s one feature broken on LinkedIn.

Re: Helium Browser

#100

Post by promiseofbeans »

WorldPeas wrote: post #72
slimebot80 wrote: post #68

You have my attention! But in this day and age, I need to understand more about intentions, and what sustains projects like this. For the moment I've settled on Safari simply because Apple makes its billions elsewhere, even if I am increasingly disappointed with how they are playing along with politics right now.

I just wish there were a browser that would use their webview technology with better tabbing, video playback, etc. Apple is often minimal to a fault.

Kagi’s Orion browser tries to do this, and it works great for me on iOS (though I still use Firefox on my mac)

https://kagi.com/orion/

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