EU age verification app not planning desktop support

Post by baq » Wed, Sep 24, 2025, 2:25 PM UTC

201984 wrote: post #65

izacus wrote: post #53

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My EU country allows tapping the ID card on a NFC reader on PC for verification. No smartphone needed for desktop use. Why wouldn't that be sufficient?

Most PCs don't have NFC readers.

Post by Freak_NL » Wed, Sep 24, 2025, 2:26 PM UTC

izacus wrote: post #53

Luker88 wrote: post #6

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> oes that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications'...? No. It's still required by law, which means that your desktop application will require some interaction with your smartphone.

My EU country allows tapping the ID card on a NFC reader on PC for verification. No smartphone needed for desktop use. Why wouldn't that be sufficient?

Post by ykonstant » Wed, Sep 24, 2025, 2:26 PM UTC

IlikeKitties wrote: post #81

disruptiveink wrote: post #45

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The insane question here is, why would the EU mandate hardware attestation controlled by two private American companies in order to access services? That seems completely contrary to the spirit of EU laws and regulations, which tend to be about protecting the consumer, preventing monopolies, ensuring people can generally live their lives where all things that are mandatory are owned and ran by the state and foster a…

> The insane question here is, why would the EU mandate hardware attestation controlled by two private American companies in order to access services? Because this is being pushed by lobbyists to use hardware attestation to make it piratically mandatory for every citizen in the EU to be registered to either Apple or Google with a real id for all non-trivial online interactions at all times. The people behind this pus…

Post by lloydatkinson » Wed, Sep 24, 2025, 2:26 PM UTC

j0057 wrote: post #82

bilekas wrote: post #3

This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out. > Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope. What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ? One can dream perhaps. Until then…

> Also this will completely disable any new phone OS' being developed. Why would anyone bother when you can't verify your wallet to do anything online. This already the case today, you can't run your bank's app or government eID apps on anything but Google or Apple devices.

Post by realusername » Wed, Sep 24, 2025, 2:29 PM UTC

zekica wrote: post #90

realusername wrote: post #73

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I don't want integrity on my mobile so why would I want it on my desktop?

Exactly, remote attestation is only acceptable on your own devices with remote attestation servers that you control. For example, it would be completely fine to implement remote attestation where devices issued by companies to employees verify their TPM values with company's servers when connecting via VPN. All other such activities directly infringe on ownership rights.