Earlier quoted context omitted.
I generally don't think about storage I/O speed at that scale (I mean really who does?). I once used a RAID0 to store data to HDDs faster, but that was a long time ago. I would have naively guessed an interesting caching system, and to some degree tiers of storage for hot vs cold objects. It was obvious after I read the article that parallelism was a great choice, but I definitely hadn't considered the detailed schem…
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How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
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Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#92Is there an open source service designed with HDDs in mind that achieves similar performance? I know none of the big ones work that well with HDDs: MinIO, Swift, Ceph+RadosGW, SeaweedFS; they all suggest flash-only deployments. Recently I've been looking into Garage and liking the idea of it, but it seems to have a very different design (no EC).
Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always assumed the really slow tiers were tape.
There might be surprisingly little value in going tape due to all the specialization required. As the other comment suggest, many of the lower tiers likely represent basically IO bandwidth classes. a 16 TB disk with 100 IOPs can only offer 1 IOP/s over 1.6 TB for 100 customers, or 0.1 IOP/s over 160 GB for 1000, etc. Just scale up that thinking to a building full of disks, it still applies
Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#94> tens of millions of disks If we assume enterprise HDDs in the double digit TB range then one can estimate that the total S3 storage volume of AWS is in the triple digit Exabyte range. That's propably the biggest storage system on planet earth.
A certain data center in Utah might top that, assuming that they have upgraded their hardware since 2013. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/07/24/blueprin...
Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#95Does anyone know what is the technology stack of S3? Monolith or multiple services? I assume would have lots of queues, caches and long running workers.
I was an SDE on the S3 Index team 10 years ago, but I doubt much of the core stack has changed. S3 is comprised primarily of layers of Java-based web services. The hot path (object get / put / list) are all served by synchronous API servers - no queues or workers. It is the best example of how many transactions per second a pretty standard Java web service stack can handle that I’ve seen in my career. For a get call,…
They may still use key names for partitioning. But they now randomly hash the user key name prefix on the back end to handle hotspots generated by similar keys.
Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#96A few factual inaccuracies in here that don't affect the general thrust. For example, the claim that S3 uses a 5:9 sharding scheme. In fact they use many different sharding schemes, and iirc 5:9 isn't one of them. The main reason being that a ratio of 1.8 physical bytes to 1 logical byte is awful for HDD costs. You can get that down significantly, and you get wider parallelism and better availability guarantees to bo…
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Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#97I enjoyed this article but I think the answer to the headline is obvious: parallelism
Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#98I enjoyed this article but I think the answer to the headline is obvious: parallelism
I generally don't think about storage I/O speed at that scale (I mean really who does?). I once used a RAID0 to store data to HDDs faster, but that was a long time ago. I would have naively guessed an interesting caching system, and to some degree tiers of storage for hot vs cold objects. It was obvious after I read the article that parallelism was a great choice, but I definitely hadn't considered the detailed schem…
Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#99So is any of S3 powered by SSD's? I honestly figured that it must be powered by SSD for the standard tier and the slower tiers were the ones using HDD or slower systems.
Re: How AWS S3 serves 1 petabyte per second on top of slow HDDs
#100A few factual inaccuracies in here that don't affect the general thrust. For example, the claim that S3 uses a 5:9 sharding scheme. In fact they use many different sharding schemes, and iirc 5:9 isn't one of them. The main reason being that a ratio of 1.8 physical bytes to 1 logical byte is awful for HDD costs. You can get that down significantly, and you get wider parallelism and better availability guarantees to bo…
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