"We're killing the product you bought! Here, buy another product from us!"
...And Lucy pulls the football once again.
Kevo app shutdown
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#92Ugh, I'm so incensed. This is the 2nd IOT product in my home getting bricked within 2 months. This is one of the reasons I am working on an enclosure-compatible open-source version of the 2nd gen Nest thermostat over at https://sett.homes/ . It reuses the enclosure, encoder ring, display, and mounts of the Nest but replaces the "thinking" part with an open-source PCB that can interact with Home Assistant. Nest has be…
Thank you for this. Our 2nd gen Nest is our pride and joy and Google has done nothing but trash it continually.
It's still the prettiest thermostat out there in my opinion, one of the reasons I wanted to save mine
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#93Rather barefaced to squeeze in a sales pitch to an End-of-life notice. "Let us slap you again the future!" Seems like the right time to switch to an offering that can't be so easily trashed.
Yeah, at first I thought they were going to provide a free replacement. But no, just asking for more money from the people they just pissed off.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
My house lock is probably the one place where I'm not prepared to compromise security with a DIY solution. Not talking about the software security (in fact open source solutions are probably more secure) but literally the hardware and build quality of any DIY work.
that's kind of funny though as any lock can be picked. if someone wants into your house, most of the time they will not enter the locked front door. they'll find a window in the back that is easier to open with whatever they find in your back yard. they might exit the front door on their way out though. also, most locks are easily picked by someone with practice
And any glass windows are an entry point if they're willing to break the window.
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#95"ends support for smartphone enabled"... If anyone thought for one second that any device which requires external "cloud" support would continue work beyond what is convenient/profitable for the provider then I have a wifi-only dishwasher to sell you. No, really - please buy it from me.
My Lockly lock supports a complete offline setup, no phone required to register finger prints or setup PIN codes. I believe I can even turn off the BT completely if I so desire. It is just exactly smart enough for my liking.
My house lock doesn't have an online mode. It has to be programmed by visiting physically, unlocking it, and then you have to stand there and touch it for a while in order to remove or activate a code. In other words, it only supports two features that a keyed lock doesn't:
1. a keyholder can't lose/forget the key 2. keys can be disabled without the expense of replacing the whole lock core
Since the purpose of a house lock is entirely a cultural/legal signal (you are allowed to come in / you do not have authority to come in) rather than security (if you are willing to damage the house, you can definitely enter), this is the perfect "smartness" for me.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apps require constant maintenance. If you just leave an app in Play Store or App Store and don’t touch it for a while, in couple of years it will be gone. Compliance requirements, obsolete APIs, forceful upgrades by the Apple/Google all see to that. That means you need to keep the app project updated and all dependencies in reasonable form. It’s not outlandish if you are a big company but as someone who oversaw the d…
I unironically look forward to the world where this is solved by unsupervised AI agents incrementally upgrade these apps to keep them evergreen... ...and the Lovecraftian gradual drift as incremental recursive hallucinations turn them into still... mostly working... strange little app-like-bundles of Something Weird.
I don't know why I have to take a selfie of myself to start my washing machine. I also don't know why it requires me to stare at it for 30 seconds afterward, or the machine shuts off. The face is my own, for the first 15 seconds or so, but then it's not. I've checked, it's a pixel perfect copy, it's not being slowly adjusted as I watch it, but for the rest of the day, the face I see in the mirror isn't my own, either.
But my laundry has never smelled so fresh.
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#972 months notice is very short, especially considering some of these will have been deployed for a decade... A year or so would have been expected. Some of these will have their owners on the other side of the world with no way to get back in time. Keep this in mind next time you consider depending on Assa Abloy - bummer to see them lose their ways.
Meh, nothing a drill with a decent bit won't fix
Unless you keep your drill inside.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's worse than that - those locks are bluetooth-based, so they don't care about the cloud. What happened is that they are disabling the app, so it is no longer usable.
So many of the smart apps won't even launch without an Internet connection (i.e. connection to their cloud services), even if you just want to control local Bluetooth devices.
I hate that.
I recently bought a G-Shock watch, it can connect to your phone via Bluetooth, it was a selling point but may be convenient to sync the time with a quick connection.
First, the G-Shock app displayed a prompt that it won't work with animations turned off which is just baffling. I have them disabled in Android settings under accessibility options because I find them frivolous.
Then with the animations enabled the G-Shock app says that it's EOL since mid 2023, now CASIO WATCHES app is for everything.
Install CASIO WATCHES, doesn't complain about animations being disabled which is an improvement but then when I want to add a watch it says I need an account.
Two local devices connecting via Bluetooth need a goddamn online account! Uninstalled that shit immediately.
I don't regret the purchase, I like the watch and it works perfectly without any connection crap but boy is all this online nonsense annoying.
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#99I worry about TP-Link bulbs and cameras. Some legislation is required.
Regulations aren't as bad.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
So many of the smart apps won't even launch without an Internet connection (i.e. connection to their cloud services), even if you just want to control local Bluetooth devices.
I hate that. I recently bought a G-Shock watch, it can connect to your phone via Bluetooth, it was a selling point but may be convenient to sync the time with a quick connection. First, the G-Shock app displayed a prompt that it won't work with animations turned off which is just baffling. I have them disabled in Android settings under accessibility options because I find them frivolous. Then with the animations enab…
There is an open-source app ("Casio G-Shock Smart Sync") for syncing time with g-shock BLE watches.
Some of them are also compatible with Gadgetbridge (also OSS, but much richer in functionality).