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Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Apple would have been avoided by developers if they weren't part of the smartphone duopoly. The tools and processes are just that bad. Now Google has decided to make theirs even worse than Apple at least when it comes to publishing in the play store.

Aren't Google just matching Apple with the signing and notarization bullshit? Except Google is free?

Almost free, you need to pay 20 euros/dollars once, if you are going to publish on the store.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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So as a daily user of Jetbrains software, who also finds XCode awful, you would not want XCode replaced by a Jetbrains project that isn't hacked together and reverse engineered like AppCode was? Or you just wanted to be dramatic?

What would actually happen is that all of Toolbox would be replaced by Xcode. No one wants that. I'm sure Apple's Dev Tools team reads HN, and it's baffling they just don't care that the product has such a bad reputation. Or if the team cares, some layer of adjacent management clearly doesn't.

HN users are some incredibly exhausting people to deal with sometimes

> or maybe even better, sizeable investment in them so they maintain autonomy and build a warchest to survive the current AI wave.

Just wow, like trying to talk to an LLM that poluted its context window with the wrong idea then hyperfixated on it ad infinitum, Jesus Christ.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So as a daily user of Jetbrains software, who also finds XCode awful, you would not want XCode replaced by a Jetbrains project that isn't hacked together and reverse engineered like AppCode was? Or you just wanted to be dramatic?

This would result in every current JetBrains user in every other language on every other platform suffer. That's a pretty big chunk of all programmers everywhere

Please tell me how

> or maybe even better, sizeable investment in them so they maintain autonomy and build a warchest to survive the current AI wave.

Somehow harms Jetbrains.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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I wish Apple would buy Jetbrains... or maybe even better, sizeable investment in them so they maintain autonomy and build a warchest to survive the current AI wave. Imagine an AppCode successor that was designed in full partnership with the XCode team? Tantalizing.

If Apple bought Jetbrains, they would ruin the Jetbrains products. It wouldn't go the way you're hoping.

I guess it's good thing there's a ton of word riggght after that...

but please don't let that stop you from being the 4th comment to repeat itself.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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As an infrequent user of iMovie (and a past user of Xcode), I think that iMovie really gives Xcode a run for its money in bad UX. How that app got out of the lab like that is profoundly beyond my understanding. It’s not just bugs as such, but actively user-hostile as though a team of people really worked hard with the goal to make the most infuriatingly inconsistent and unintuitive app imaginable.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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They probably wake up the exact same way as the people who bring their toxic attitudes to Linux, open source projects, stack overflow-type sites, IRC/Discord, etc. Being a rude apologist for NixOS isn't actually morally superior to being a rude apologist for Apple.

> Being a rude apologist for NixOS isn't actually morally superior to being a rude apologist for Apple. no, but it is cheaper and feels morally superior!

My NixOS-running laptop agrees.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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As daily user of Jetbrains’ software (and someone who agrees with TFA about xcode) I don’t want Apple anywhere near them

So as a daily user of Jetbrains software, who also finds XCode awful, you would not want XCode replaced by a Jetbrains project that isn't hacked together and reverse engineered like AppCode was? Or you just wanted to be dramatic?

Apple would abandon other IDEs and shitify AppCode over time.

Ideally they’d do what Google did with Android Studio. Of course Apple would never openly admit that their product is inferior to that of any of their competitors..

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Can you write Apple applications, desktop or mobile, entirely in Rust? Is there any way to avoid Apple technologies (that isn't React native, and obviously you still need to build on a Mac) when developing software?

Over a decade ago I used to work for a company that built a c++ opengl based ui for android Linux iOS macos and Windows...

It could be done but I wouldn't want to ever do that again.....

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