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Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by zrobotics »

op7 wrote: post #26

Sorry but I'm not going to sponsor you stealing a company's trademark.

Well, it's oracle, so as far as I'm concerned anything that hurts them or their IP is a legitimate public service.

That said, it does seem more than a little cheeky for a VC backed company to open up a public gofundme for this.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by maybewhenthesun »

throwingrocks wrote: post #55

Surprised by the amount of mentions of ECMAScript here. It’s the worst possible name to me.

meh.

'Java' script was a ridiculous choice which has lead to much confusion.

For all I care it could be called mozillascript (would be historically more 'correct')

otoh anything Oracle wants is bad by default so...

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by chamomeal »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #76
r_lee wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine the kind of media attention / clout they'll get for "beating Oracle" etc. They absolutely do get material gains from this, should they succeed. It'd be a much more legitimate effort if they were just asking people to raise funds for e.g. OpenJS to file suit etc.

I want Deno to succeed. They already have enough challenges between bun and Node taking all of their good ideas and incorporating them. I want the ecosystem to have more options. This is Oracle we are talking about here. I would cut off my nose to spite Oracle’s face if necessary, they are some of the worst corporate actors in the history of the world. And that is not an exaggeration.

I also desperately want deno to succeed cause it’s just the best way to work with typescript. I have a strong personal interest in working with deno instead of node in the future.

At my company a lot of internal stuff is built with deno. Nothing mission critical but lots of utilities and stuff. But new services are still node, which is basically fine cause all of the complex config is handled already. But all of that complexity still leaks through (whoops can’t use this package because jest can’t find it!)

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by notapenny »

glimshe wrote: post #7

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Grow up.

And accept that both have merit. You may not like it but there's a reason languages, tools, companies, products, whatever become popular. And it isn't just because "people are idiots" or evil companies. Console wars are for teenagers.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by jansan »

Illniyar wrote: post #42

I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

Please do not accuse anyone of "hate" for having a different opinion and expressing it in a way that you do not like.

Btw, I donated.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by chamomeal »

SignalM wrote: post #88

I appreciate the thought but this isn’t even a David and Goliath .. this is David’s infant taking on Goliath… Oracle spends more on lawyers than engineers. If this 200k is spent it will be thrown in the garbage. Unless Oracle wants to release it on their own they’ll happily stay in court until every penny Deno has is gone and not think twice about it. Have the team focus on something else.. this isn’t even worth typi…

I know there are all kinds of lawyers and pro bono work and such. But $200k sounds like a tiny pittance in lawyer world
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