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Re: David Lynch LA House

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By that definition, most people are poor. $15 million is much more than most people have. Even split among the four children, it's fine.

Sure, but there's a gap between being poor and being wealthy . $15 million is a lot more than most people have and it's certainly enough to be comfortable and not have to worry about money, but it's still categorically different from having the sort of money that gives you institutional power.

Yeah but having a 15M house and say 200k income makes you poor, as a 15M house needs a ton of money to maintain it.

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Love this compound and all the hiking paths up around in the surrounding hills. Truly an peaceful property to immerse yourself in work and entertaining! Property taxes are gonna spike for the new buyer though due to prop 13 so make sure to factor that into your offer vs the $15k a year in the listing... Hopefully whoever buys this gem doesn't tear it down to build some modern boxy McMansion.

If you're dropping $15m you aren't worried about property taxes regardless of how much they do or do not increase.

It's probably just a general comment for folks who don't understand CA property taxes. I've lived here my whole home-buying life, so it never crosses my mind to look at the Zillow property tax figure when doing my mental maths on whether I can afford something, but if you lived in an area where the figure in Zillow actually means something to the buyer, you might be in for a surprise in CA.

Here, it's just an easy 1%, so the math isn't hard. I'm not sure if other states have highly variable rates on a county-by-county basis, or if other states also tend to have consistent rates within their borders.

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I like the contrast between the kitchen and the home theatre, I guess he was not much of a chef haha

Definitely not much of a chef! > When I get up, I have a cappuccino - that's breakfast. I don't have any food till lunch. I get into phases where I'll have the same thing every day. Lately I've been having feta cheese, olive oil and vinegar, tomatoes, and some tuna fish mixed together. Before that I was having tuna fish on lettuce and cottage cheese, but I got tired of that in about three months. I once had the same…

Even though I know nothing about him, this makes complete sense and isn't surprising at all. Also, this is the diet of someone who has no problems with gaining too much weight. Basically intermittent fasting through breakfast and low carb at lunch.

Also, I think a lot of us can relate to this:

>If left alone, my natural waking hours would probably be I 0 A.M. till 3 A.M

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If you're dropping $15m you aren't worried about property taxes regardless of how much they do or do not increase.

It's probably just a general comment for folks who don't understand CA property taxes. I've lived here my whole home-buying life, so it never crosses my mind to look at the Zillow property tax figure when doing my mental maths on whether I can afford something, but if you lived in an area where the figure in Zillow actually means something to the buyer, you might be in for a surprise in CA. Here, it's just an easy 1%…

In Illinois, how property is valued and taxed seems pretty obscure, and may involve witchcraft.

The rate on my tax bill is 6.03%. But that's on a "net taxable value" that's about 40% of what I paid for the place 15 years ago, and maybe 25% of what I could get for the place now. So the rate is effectively 2.5% of what I paid, or 1.4% of what I could get. The total tax has also gone up 26% since 2020, increasing by more each year, but I don't know whether they've raised the rate each year or the valuation.

It's probably possible to find out how it works, but there's not much point. It is what it is, so you pay it or leave. No one lives in Illinois for the tax rates.

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Between preserving a 'compound' (presumably by a wealth private person) and converting it back to three properties and homes, I'd want to see the latter.

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What people normally mean by wealth is easy access to cash. Someone that owns a $15M house and has very little other liquid assets is not poor, but they definitely don't qualify as wealthy. Many, many people in CA that live in expensive homes are in this situation. It's what Prop 13 wrought. Variously, in my neighborhood, old people are paying a small fraction of the property tax that I do, and their house is worth a…

> Someone that owns a $15M house and has very little other liquid assets is not poor, but they definitely don't qualify as wealthy.

Assuming they own the house outright, that absolutely does qualify as wealthy.

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i lived about a half mile from this house in the same neighborhood -- it could be a lot more expensive if it had the view some properties around there have. note that mulholland dr is just up the street from the house. this overlook is worth a visit: https://maps.app.goo.gl/muMirzaSJsEt9YnR7

Do you have generational wealth? Seems like a paradise out there..

One of the oddities of California is that you frequently see shabby, cheaply constructed houses of no significance selling for millions of dollars.

That is because some mid-century developer built it as middle-class housing. A middle-class family moved in and had kids. They continued to live there while property values soared. So the kids grew up in neighborhood where all the houses cost millions of dollars.

I used to know an elderly coupled who lived in one of the nicer parts of Malibu. Both were school teachers. They bought the house when Malibu was cheap because of the "horrible" commute along scenic Highway 1 and the lack of sewers in Malibu. Before the fires, their house was probably worth over $10 million (thanks, prop 13!).

When they passed, the kids couldn't afford to keep the house (even with the feudal property tax system in California, which allows inheritance of low property tax assessments like some kind of medieval title of nobility) because the kids were also just normal middle class people.

So, to answer your question: In some sense, yes, almost by definition, the family of person you're responding to does have generational wealth (in the form of the house). But in a different sense, no, because it's quite likely that they have nowhere near the amount liquid assets implied by the phrase "generational wealth".

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By that definition, most people are poor. $15 million is much more than most people have. Even split among the four children, it's fine.

It’s not terribly hard to get into that position, if you spend 40 years of your time and treasure on something with resale value instead of on food and experiences. You can do something similar if you buy a house and keep buying any neighboring house that comes up for sale (and renting them out, perhaps).

Median household income is like $83k. If you were in a median US household and you saved half of all your income every month into something that had a stable 4% return, in 40 years you'd have ~$4M. Not even halfway there.

You'd need a little over 9% of stable returns over that 40 year timeframe to hit that $15M target.

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Sure, but there's a gap between being poor and being wealthy . $15 million is a lot more than most people have and it's certainly enough to be comfortable and not have to worry about money, but it's still categorically different from having the sort of money that gives you institutional power.

Yeah but having a 15M house and say 200k income makes you poor, as a 15M house needs a ton of money to maintain it.

If you are paying property tax in LA based on a 15m valuation, that 200k income will struggle to cover the annual property tax bill let alone any maintenance or anything else.
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