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Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

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Re: Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

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Post by vanc_cefepime »

NdMAND wrote: post #70

Single-handedly, Firefox (independently from how crappy it can be at times) is what is keeping me on Android. Its full extension support (i.e.: uBlock Origin support) is something that I can't really do without. I do wonder if the crowd here knows of other good alternatives though - specifically, Android and/or iOS browsers with "full" uBlock Origin support (no uBlock origin lite, no other blocker, ...). I would love…

Orion (by Kagi) with full ublock origin on iOS, atleast that was the case about 6 months ago that I am aware of on Apple’s ecosystem. I’ve long jumped to pihole/adguard home to block ads at the router level so I went back to stock safari after that and use Tailscale to retain the router blocking capabilities when I’m on cell service.

Re: Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

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Post by okanat »

NdMAND wrote: post #70

Single-handedly, Firefox (independently from how crappy it can be at times) is what is keeping me on Android. Its full extension support (i.e.: uBlock Origin support) is something that I can't really do without. I do wonder if the crowd here knows of other good alternatives though - specifically, Android and/or iOS browsers with "full" uBlock Origin support (no uBlock origin lite, no other blocker, ...). I would love…

Not uBlock Origin but Brave's own blocker is written in Rust and it is much more battery efficient than Firefox+uBO. It is equally powerful too (you can also add custom lists). Firefox is both slow and eats a lot of battery.

Re: Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

#93

Post by hulitu »

mikae1 wrote: post #83
MrAlex94 wrote: post #32

Not sure why it took so long for Mozilla to expose the setting on Android, it's been a 'secret' setting for a long time. In fact, sometimes they let features ride the rails for a little bit too long IMO. For Waterfox for Android I exposed the setting by default and also added an addition DNS over Oblivious HTTP setting (DoOH) which uses Fastly as the relay (they host and control it, for privacy sanitisation) and Clou…

It's been accessible via about:config, yes. But more importantly, there's a system wide DoH setting in Android (or at least in GrapheneOS). I don't see why it would preferable to only configure DoH in the browser.

> It's been accessible via about:config, yes.

Am i the only one for which about:config does nothing on Firefox on Android ?

Re: Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

#94

Post by Phelinofist »

LiamPowell wrote: post #2

This doesn't address why this needs to be built in to the browser when Android already does DoH by itself. I assume there's a reason, does anyone know what it is?

AFAIK Android does not do DoH but DoT - at least you can only set a DoT endpoint in the "private DNS" settings.

Re: Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

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Post by stagalooo »

vanc_cefepime wrote: post #91
NdMAND wrote: post #70

Single-handedly, Firefox (independently from how crappy it can be at times) is what is keeping me on Android. Its full extension support (i.e.: uBlock Origin support) is something that I can't really do without. I do wonder if the crowd here knows of other good alternatives though - specifically, Android and/or iOS browsers with "full" uBlock Origin support (no uBlock origin lite, no other blocker, ...). I would love…

Orion (by Kagi) with full ublock origin on iOS, atleast that was the case about 6 months ago that I am aware of on Apple’s ecosystem. I’ve long jumped to pihole/adguard home to block ads at the router level so I went back to stock safari after that and use Tailscale to retain the router blocking capabilities when I’m on cell service.

Yes, this is still true. I use orion but I do find it to be a bit buggy.

Re: Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

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Post by prettymuchnoone »

hulitu wrote: post #93
mikae1 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been accessible via about:config, yes. But more importantly, there's a system wide DoH setting in Android (or at least in GrapheneOS). I don't see why it would preferable to only configure DoH in the browser.

> It's been accessible via about:config, yes. Am i the only one for which about:config does nothing on Firefox on Android ?

try chrome://geckoview/content/config.xhtml

Re: Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

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Post by aborsy »

You can set DoH in all major browsers in desktop. On iOS, you can use private relay.

One issue is, if you set DoH in the browser, you can not do DNS filtering in your dns server. It might be better to send DNS over VPN to your home lan, do the filtering there, and let your dns server send the dns over https.

Tailscale can send DNS from all devices to a server of your choice. From there, AdGaurd or Pihole will filter it and send it over https.

Re: Firefox 143 for Android to introduce DoH

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Post by darkamaul »

vanc_cefepime wrote: post #91
NdMAND wrote: post #70

Single-handedly, Firefox (independently from how crappy it can be at times) is what is keeping me on Android. Its full extension support (i.e.: uBlock Origin support) is something that I can't really do without. I do wonder if the crowd here knows of other good alternatives though - specifically, Android and/or iOS browsers with "full" uBlock Origin support (no uBlock origin lite, no other blocker, ...). I would love…

Orion (by Kagi) with full ublock origin on iOS, atleast that was the case about 6 months ago that I am aware of on Apple’s ecosystem. I’ve long jumped to pihole/adguard home to block ads at the router level so I went back to stock safari after that and use Tailscale to retain the router blocking capabilities when I’m on cell service.

I'm also using Orion on iOS, so far without any major issues. And adblocking still works great here.
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