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Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

If you’re not sexually active, is it still worth doing?

Life is long and unpredictable, while the cost is very low.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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post #38

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> I wonder if this is the price we pay for radical informational transparency. Nowadays, democratic countries with reasonable freedom of press cannot really prevent their own fuckups from surfacing in the worst possible way. Some people react by complete rejection of anything that comes from "official" channels and become ripe for manipulation from other actors. Such people have always existed, unfortunately. I don't…

The people existed, but a portable always-running conveyor belt of bad news that is addictive enough to make them glued to the screen did not. In the 1990s, you had maybe 15 minutes a day on average to consume news, either from a paper newspaper, or from an evening TV relation. Now, quite a lot of people spend 20 times as much time doomscrolling. Of course the impact will be much more massive.

Back then we had the National Enquirer and Weekly World News and similar for all the obscure conspiracy news you wanted.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Amazing how badly the United States is regressing. Literally measles is making a comeback due to idiots like RFK.

And even before the antivax nutters here went from fringe to a significant social force, HPV vaccines were already being decried for "promoting casual sex." Our culture is so broken in so many ways.

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Potentially, yes. HPV infections are cleared over time, and there are many strains of HPV.

That's really interesting, and from that I would assume that the risk of cervical (or other cancers) from HPV is associated with how often someone is reinfected? ie, someone who got HPV once in college doesn't have HPV their whole life? And potentially has a lower cancer risk than someone who is repeatedly re-infected? Am I understanding that correctly?

> someone who got HPV once in college doesn't have HPV their whole life?

Doesn't necessarily have HPV their whole life - time-to-clearance is somewhat variable.

And yes, both slower clearance and just more infections are both associated with increased risk.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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The goal wasn't to eliminate the HPV strains, it was to decrease cervical cancer. Has Denmark encountered a drop in cervical cancer? If so, that's a great outcome!

> it was to decrease cervical cancer

HPV can cause cancers in the cervix, vulva, vagina, penis, anus and back of the throat [1].

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/about/cancers-caused-by-hpv.html

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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> Is there a net positive benefit to this shot? Yes https://ourworldindata.org/hpv-vaccination-world-can-elimina...

Doesn't answer the question. Other vaccines, for example DTP, have been shown to cause higher long term mortality rate over those who didn't get it.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/2/3/e000707

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#98
post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

If you’re not sexually active, is it still worth doing?

The protection from the vaccines lasts (probably) a lifetime, and HPV is quite widespread because it is: very easily communicable, and infections linger for potentially long periods of time without any obvious symptoms

Something like 80% of people are sexually active at all will be infected with HPV at some point. You may not have been sexually active, but your future partners may have been. I personally have a friend who went through stage 4 cancer contracted from her (now ex) husband.

So, of course not literally everyone needs to take it, assess your own risks, but it's quite an easy, highly effective vaccine: don't overthink it.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

If you’re not sexually active, is it still worth doing?

Yes.

“The route of HPV transmission is primarily through skin-to-skin or skin-to-mucosa contact. Sexual transmission is the most documented, but there have been studies suggesting non-sexual courses.

The horizontal transfer of HPV includes fomites, fingers, and mouth, skin contact (other than sexual). Self-inoculation is described in studies as a potential HPV transmission route, as it was certified in female virgins, and in children with genital warts (low-risk HPV) without a personal history of sexual abuse. Vertical transmission from mother to child is another HPV transfer course” [1].

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7579832/

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people existed, but a portable always-running conveyor belt of bad news that is addictive enough to make them glued to the screen did not. In the 1990s, you had maybe 15 minutes a day on average to consume news, either from a paper newspaper, or from an evening TV relation. Now, quite a lot of people spend 20 times as much time doomscrolling. Of course the impact will be much more massive.

Sure, but this implies the only source of "manipulation from other actors" is the news, media, or government. Churches, cults, and just other ignorant people existed to cause distrust in authority.

Chatty Kathy could only share her moonbat ideas with a couple people at a time. Now she has a TikTok and the ability to go viral. Even folks sharing her video to mock it are spreading her message.
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