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Re: Models of European metro stations

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

pessimizer wrote: post #58
rjsw wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why make it easier for an enemy to plan an attack on them.

Reading comments like yours makes me wonder what kind of mental model of the world some people are working with. Russia does not need HN comments to tell them where train stations are.

It’s highly likely that Russia already has detailed models of every stations in Ukraine. If they didn’t before the war, they do now. Mapping public infrastructure doesn’t require a lot of spying.

But you have to understand that information control during war requires a shift of mindset. It’s better to start controlling everything which could be used by the enemy even if they probably already have it than try to establish complex rules. It gives good habits to people.

Re: Models of European metro stations

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Post by nemetroid »

rsynnott wrote: post #40
sschueller wrote: post #20

Wow, very nice project. The ones in Zürich are not actually metro stations. They where built to be, but then the city voted against a metro. The stations that were already built were converted into tram stations. There where some complications like that fact the the tram is almost too tall to fit. The pantograph is almost fully compressed when the tram enters the tunnel. The trams also switch to the left side as the…

> The trams also switch to the left side as the doors are only one side. ... Wait, what? That seems like a serious false economy...

Same in Gothenburg. There's a single underground station, with the platform in the middle, so the trams need to cross over. Another underground station is planned, but it will have the tracks in the middle instead.

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Post by Mona4000 »

tkiolp4 wrote: post #52
decimalenough wrote: post #26

Here's a zoomable 3D model of the world's busiest train station, Shinjuku in Tokyo: https://satoshi7190.github.io/Shinjuku-indoor-threejs-demo/ 3.6 million passengers per day . Wikipedia: The main East Japan Railway Company (JR East) station and the directly adjacent private railways have a total of 35 platforms, an underground arcade, above-ground arcade and numerous hallways with another 17 platforms (52 total) tha…

If only 1% give money to homeless people, that’s… a good place to beg for money. I would probably make more there than what i make at my fancy software engineering job (100K before taxes per year): - 36000 people - let’s say each give 10 cents ($) - that’s $3600 per day - if you beg 8h per day, that’s $1200/day - begging mon to fri means $24000 per month (tax free)

Begging is illegal in Japan.

Re: Models of European metro stations

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Post by amo1111 »

Pretty impressive! Interesting shoutout to Längenfeldgasse (Vienna) for the cross-platform interchange. This is a pretty popular station to get to Schönbrunn Palace & Zoo, as such the majority of people changing stay on the platform and you really physically see the lean design in motion. This can probably only be done during the design phase otherwise to costly to ever change if it's even possible.

Re: Models of European metro stations

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Post by hamdingers »

rsynnott wrote: post #40
sschueller wrote: post #20

Wow, very nice project. The ones in Zürich are not actually metro stations. They where built to be, but then the city voted against a metro. The stations that were already built were converted into tram stations. There where some complications like that fact the the tram is almost too tall to fit. The pantograph is almost fully compressed when the tram enters the tunnel. The trams also switch to the left side as the…

> The trams also switch to the left side as the doors are only one side. ... Wait, what? That seems like a serious false economy...

A set of crossovers has a high upfront cost, but compare to the added seating capacity on every tram car every day for decades and it doesn't seem so bad.

Re: Models of European metro stations

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Post by igravious »

As the title suggests it is not a website of models of European metro stations because:

(a) it contains models of North American stations, and

(b) it does not contain stations from the St Petersburg[1] or Moscow metros which are significant European metros (the Moscow metro[2] is the longest in Europe)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg_Metro

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Metro

Re: Models of European metro stations

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Post by konart »

pessimizer wrote: post #58
rjsw wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why make it easier for an enemy to plan an attack on them.

Reading comments like yours makes me wonder what kind of mental model of the world some people are working with. Russia does not need HN comments to tell them where train stations are.

Most, if not all, of the stations were build during Soviet times. Russia have the original maps of most of them.

Re: Models of European metro stations

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Post by Mordisquitos »

hbarka wrote: post #69

This is a remarkable feat. Amazing. I’d like to add an interesting metric: density of subway/metro stations as measured by number of stations per square kilometer. In European cities, City, Metro System, Stations, City Area (km²), Density (stations/km²): 1. Paris, Metro de Paris, 244, 105, 2.32 2. Berlin, U‑Bahn only, 173, 892, ~0.19 3. London Underground (London Tube), ~270, 1,572, ~0.17 4. Madrid, Metro de Madrid,…

> 4. Madrid, Metro de Madrid, ~300, 605, ~0.50

> [...] Madrid has a dense network too (≈0.50), though well behind Paris.

As a native of Madrid, I must point out that using the nominal surface area of the municipality of Madrid (~605 km²) is misleading for these purposes due to the Monte del Pardo [0] and Soto de Viñuelas [1], two fenced off forest areas covering around 180 km² between them. The impact of these areas on the nominal surface area of the city is visually obvious when you compare the outlines of Madrid and Paris administrative areas:

+ Madrid: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5326784

+ Paris: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7444

As a result, the relevant surface for estimating the density of Metro stations in Madrid should be at most ~425 km². While one may arguably also want to exclude the Bois de Boulogne and the Bois de Vincennes from the surface area of Paris, even the "de-Pardo'd" surface area of Madrid still contains significant non-urban areas such as the Casa de Campo forest, large non-built-up areas, and even most of its airport.

(In any case though, after this pedantic "well ackshually", I must also point out that a few Madrid Metro stations actually fall outside of its municipal limits. I would get out more, but I live in a town without a Metro)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_de_El_Pardo

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soto_de_Viñuelas

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