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I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

stavros wrote: post #81
smt88 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs are heavily trained on reddit, and "Tom Nook is a capitalist dictator if you think about it" is a reddit meme. Like many LLM reactions, it's less "thought" and more "regurgitating reddit jokes/opinions".

How can you tell? Either you're saying that LLMs have no "thoughts", and just regurgitate everything, which doesn't explain how they can reason in novel problems, or you're saying you can tell what's original thought and what's regurgitation, in which case I'll ask "how do we know your comment isn't you regurgitating an HN opinion"?

>which doesn't explain how they can reason in novel problems

Can they?

Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by simonw »

adenta wrote: post #89

Doesn’t the GameCube already have a network interface? Like something called phantasy star online used it for internet, and you can connect multiple GameCubes for 16 player Mario kart I believe.

That's mentioned half way down the article - search for "What About the GameCube Broadband Adapter?".

Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by [deleted] »

mgaunard wrote: post #79
beckthompson wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm unsure how useful they'll really be honestly! In many situations its very useful to know when your "done" talking with an NPC when they start repeating lines etc... There could probably be cool uses but I don't think it will be a pure "upgrade" as the repeating dialog is kind of a feature honestly. We'll have to see how it pans out xD

It would require a completely different design to video games. Current video games are designed around streamlining content. As a player, your job is to extract all content from an area before going to the next. That's why most areas are designed as linear corridors so that there is a straightforward progression, and most NPCs interactions are meant to offer something meaningful so as to not waste the player's time.…

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Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by looperhacks »

amilios wrote: post #9
wincy wrote: post #5

That's hilarious that you give the villagers thought and the first thing they want to do is overthrow Tom Nook. If this works in Gamecube on an emulator, surely it'd be possible to make it work on the Switch emulators as well?

Would require decompilation of the Animal Crossing game code for the Switch. I believe DRM has gotten a lot better since the Gamecube days as well. Hypothetically possible maybe but good luck haha

Switch DRM, running custom code and interacting with RAM is a solved problem on the Switch (1). There are some really impressive mods, like a multiplayer implementation for Super Mario Odyssey

Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by latexr »

arkh wrote: post #85
dolebirchwood wrote: post #15

This is awesome. LLM-powered NPCs is one thing I'm most excited about in the future of gaming. Characters repeating the same scripted dialog over and over again is one of the biggest immersion breakers.

> Characters repeating the same scripted dialog over and over again is one of the biggest immersion breakers. The real immersion breaker and the holy grail of RPG is the fact NPC have no life or goal outside of what the player does. Imagine a game where NPCs have wants and goals and do things to get those done. Where you could leave it running for 10 years and things would have happened without you.

That’s a nice experiment, but it’s a life simulator and not really a game. There’s little fun in working your way through the first two dungeons and then getting out and being told “no need to go on your epic quest anymore, someone else from the last town beat God and now we’re at peace. Oh, and they got all the powerful artefacts along the way, so there’s literally nothing of interest for you to do anymore. Unless you want to help us plant our crops. That’s what you wanted when you picked Final Fantasy, right? To play a poor version of Harvest Moon instead.”

Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by jraph »

stavros wrote: post #84
jraph wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt a star will make Nintendo lawyers go "ow nose, they didn't spell out emulator in full, we can't attack them! Damn those star armors!". I don't think it changes anything technically. The only thing this kind of censoring does is countering basic censor bots I think, and somehow making swear words publishable in the US.

The asterisk would make it so they can't just search for "Nintendo emulator" online and find their comment. Until I typed this, I guess...

Few results include "Nintendo emulator". Did you mean "Nintendo emul*tor"?

Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by latexr »

Arisaka1 wrote: post #57
malfist wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to care about repeat scripted dialogue like you, until I took an arrow to the knee

Yep. I can see how relying on non-repetitive dialogue generated by LLM's will inevitably make us lose common ground scenarios that end up being memorable moments, like the arrow to the knee from Skyrim or "such devastation! this was not my intention" from Final Fantasy 14. A way to bypass this problem is to keep the important dialogue fixed, but this only one of the problems. Another issue would be emphasizing the me…

> will inevitably make us lose common ground scenarios that end up being memorable moments, like the arrow to the knee from Skyrim or "such devastation! this was not my intention" from Final Fantasy 14.

GLaDOS from Portal would offer one player pudding and another one a steak. You get to a wall which says “the ravioli is a fraud” and become utterly confused.

Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by Topfi »

ameliaquining wrote: post #74
smt88 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs are heavily trained on reddit, and "Tom Nook is a capitalist dictator if you think about it" is a reddit meme. Like many LLM reactions, it's less "thought" and more "regurgitating reddit jokes/opinions".

Actually, it turns out that this particular plot arc was hardcoded by the developer and does not spontaneously arise from the LLM. https://github.com/vuciv/animal-crossing-llm-mod/blob/cc9b6b...

There is something to be said for a comment talking about "regurgitating reddit jokes/opinions", whilst falling into a major bug bear many have with Reddit, commenting before reading the source...

Re: I replaced Animal Crossing's dialogue with a live LLM by hacking GameCube memory

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Post by Topfi »

dahcryn wrote: post #53
smt88 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs are heavily trained on reddit, and "Tom Nook is a capitalist dictator if you think about it" is a reddit meme. Like many LLM reactions, it's less "thought" and more "regurgitating reddit jokes/opinions".

It would be great if this evolved slowly during the progression of the game lol

That's essentially what it does, being prompted with a progression from:

> "Stay normal unless prompted. Avoid overt references to debt unless it comes up naturally."

all the way to:

> "Openly agitate for change. Use fiery language (still PG) and talk about reclaiming fairness from Nook's shop and loans."

Source: https://github.com/vuciv/animal-crossing-llm-mod/blob/cc9b6b...

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