From a product perspective, being able to switch between two iOS devices without a 3rd iOS device shouldn’t be a premium feature.
Please consider enabling local backup and restore for a single Signal instance on iOS.
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From a product perspective, being able to switch between two iOS devices without a 3rd iOS device shouldn’t be a premium feature.
Please consider enabling local backup and restore for a single Signal instance on iOS.
Oof... That's going to be tough to explain to normal users. "Sorry you've been paying for backups all this time, but you should have written down this code that you will only ever use once somewhere safe and remembered where it is. All your data is gone."
Not the right security trade-off for most people.
Backing up Signal on Android for free and offline was ~always possible. The app creates a multi GB backup file on the phone memory under the Signal folder that you can just copy out and back on a new phone. The file is encrypted with the passcode and the database can be extracted. https://github.com/bepaald/signalbackup-tools
There are a couple of problems with the existing backup: 1. It is non-incremental. This means you'll need about as much free space on your phone as your Signal database takes, and it may take many hours to make if your database is large (mine is 18GB). I used to wake up to find my phone had not even fully charged because it had been so busy writing Signal backups. 2. Once you have it on disk, how do you get it away f…
> Losing it means losing access to your backup permanently, and Signal cannot help you recover it. Oof... That's going to be tough to explain to normal users. "Sorry you've been paying for backups all this time, but you should have written down this code that you will only ever use once somewhere safe and remembered where it is. All your data is gone." Not the right security trade-off for most people.
> Losing it means losing access to your backup permanently, and Signal cannot help you recover it. Oof... That's going to be tough to explain to normal users. "Sorry you've been paying for backups all this time, but you should have written down this code that you will only ever use once somewhere safe and remembered where it is. All your data is gone." Not the right security trade-off for most people.
Signal opens themselves up to government coercion and ruined reputation otherwise.
> Losing it means losing access to your backup permanently, and Signal cannot help you recover it. Oof... That's going to be tough to explain to normal users. "Sorry you've been paying for backups all this time, but you should have written down this code that you will only ever use once somewhere safe and remembered where it is. All your data is gone." Not the right security trade-off for most people.
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Only on Android, not iOS.
It's not Signal's fault that Apple does not let you access the most basic feature of an operating system - the filesystem.
Am I still required to add a phone number to use signal? What's the point of that. Every single person in the USA (and probably world) is quickly and trivially de-anonymized with a phone number.
'the point' is spam protection, alas
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I don't think it's appropriate to call someone you're talking to with disappearing messages turned off making a backup of the conversation so they have the (non-disappearing) message history if they drop their phone in a lake as "adversarial behavior". If you don't want them to have a history only communicate via disappearing messages.
This post says disappearing messages are included in the backups. You have to enable disappearing messages with a timer of less than 24 hours to ensure that you can opt out.