US to target more businesses after Hyundai raid

Post by catlover76 » Sun, Sep 07, 2025, 7:12 PM UTC

neither_color wrote: post #73

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I have a passport with Chinese visas in it. After standing in line for a few hours to get one myself, I used Visa expediters. A business visa might take a week plus the time and effort to create a letter from the business being visited that explains the purpose of the visit. The visa should be good for several months, at least. The example of Steve Jobs telling someone to get there in a day shows lack of preparedness…

It sounds like China facilitates foreign direct investment by making it faster and easier for foreign companies to set up factories and fly in talent to train local workers. If I were in a Thucidian power struggle and trying to re-shore industry and all the new manufacturing processes developed abroad in the past 40 years I would consider making it easier for allies who want to invest in the US to do the same.

Post by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 » Sun, Sep 07, 2025, 7:25 PM UTC

crooked-v wrote: post #88

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Interesting, you do think the local populace is not capable of breeding? If so, can you point to the why? I might be leading you a little, but I promise only a little.

The US has a fertility rate of 1.6 ( https://apnews.com/article/fertility-rate-us-low-cdc-replace... ), i.e., 1.6 kids per 2 parents. Better social services and social safety nets would likely increase this some, but it would still probably be under 2, since that's the general trend for wealthy countries.

Post by busterarm » Sun, Sep 07, 2025, 7:30 PM UTC

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Not picking any particular dog in this fight, but the western labor market also has become very adversarial. I knew a guy whose family had a tree nursery in Texas and they stopped hiring citizens and eventually white people outside of blood relatives completely. They tried for quite a long time, including raising prices, long training periods and safety equipment purchases, etc. Eventually after several dozen people…

The citizenry has to plan for a future in their home economy. That make labor intensive minimum wage jobs a bad option if you need to hold two jobs to get ahead. Migrants can tough it out for a few annual trips and return with more savings than they could generate at home.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Sep 07, 2025, 7:37 PM UTC

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Curious to see what comes home to roost. I mean when, for example, you clear out the agriculture workers of the U.S. without any thought as to how or what you are going to do to replace them, well, expect higher grocery prices I guess?

My undersanding is that Biden's admin estimated 10-11 million undocumented migrants in the USA, and that these migrants represent a critical percentage of some agricultural roles. It wouldn't simply be higher prices, it would be shortages . I think there's about 50m or so documented migrants, but as many of the targets at Hyundai were documented but apparently wrong somehow, the USA may find its economy and workforce…

Post by Guvante » Sun, Sep 07, 2025, 7:59 PM UTC

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What specific action did the US government take against Hyundai here? Or did they just gut their workforce and claim that was "enough of a penalty". Historically the US has implicitly condoned these illegal actions by employers by refusing to ever take action against them. There has only ever been action taken against employees, who sometimes aren't even meaningfully informed that they are breaking the law. (Certainl…

> What specific action did the US government take against Hyundai here? There are levels of plausible deniability that need to be pierced for actions to stand up in a court of law. Hyundai has already claimed these workers were not employees and were subcontractors or sub-subcontractors. Just the negative press and pressure from the SK govt may do a lot in the future for Korean carmakers to try and do better checking…