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I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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>And my stupid MSI board resets everything (every single BIOS setting) to MSI defaults when you upgrade its BIOS. I had the same issue with my MSI board, next one won't be a MSI.

My ASUS and Gigabyte did the same too. I think vendors are being lazy and don’t want to write migration code

Did what exactly? All the ASUS and Gigabytes I've seen had PBO (which I guess you're talking about) disabled by default.

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

#92
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What do you use?

I’ve given up on both and use Apple Silicon only. AMD and Intel are simply too power hungry for how slow they are and can’t optimize for power like Apple can.

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Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

#93
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Seems like failure in choosing cooling solutions. These high-end chips have obscene cooling needs. My guess would be using something that was not designed for TDP in question. Sufficient cooler, with sufficient airflow is always needed.

For what it's worth, I have an i9-13900K paired with the largest air cooler available at the time (a be quiet! Dark Rock 5 IIRC), and it's incapable of sufficiently cooling that CPU. The 13900k draws more than 200W initially and thermal throttles after a minute at most, even in an air conditioned room. I don't think that thermal problems should be pushed to end user to this degree.

This means your system doesn't have enough airflow if it throttles this quickly.

But I agree this should not be a problem in the first place.

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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Isn't it mostly an ease of mind thing? I've never seen a ECC error on my home server which has plenty of memory in use and runs longer than my desktop. Maybe it's more common with higher clocked, near the limit, desktop PC's. Also: DDR5 has some false ecc marketing due to the memory standard having an error correction scheme build in. Don't fall for it.

I see a particular ECC error at least weekly on my home desktop system, because one of my DIMMs doesn't like the (out of spec) clock rate that I make it operate at. Looks like this: 94 2025-08-26 01:49:40 +0200 error: Corrected error, no action required., CPU 2, bank Unified Memory Controller (bank=18), mcg mcgstatus=0, mci CECC, memory_channel=1,csrow=0, mcgcap=0x0000011c, status=0x9c2040000000011b, addr=0x36e701dc0…

Running your RAM so far out of spec that it breaks down regularly, where do you take the confidence that ECC will still work correctly?

Also: Could you not have just bought slightly faste RAM, given the premium for ECC?

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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It's not some politics thing tom's hardware came up with. It's from the firefox's crash reports:

>If you have an Intel Raptor Lake system and you're in the northern hemisphere, chances are that your machine is crashing more often because of the summer heat. I know because I can literally see which EU countries have been affected by heat waves by looking at the locales of Firefox crash reports coming from Raptor Lake systems.

13th and 14th gen Intel is also showing up in aggregated gaming crash data, though not sure if that's heat related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzHcrbT5D_Y

>beyond which they default to auto-shutdown.

That doesn't preclude the possibility of temperature related instability below 100...

Nothing that it's different generations - it's not the core ultras (15th) that are known to have these issues

>rotting people's brains

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Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

#96
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No but it's also important to realize that this CPU was running at an insane temperature that should never happen in normal operation. I have a laptop with an undersized fan and if I max out all my cores with full load, I barely cross 80. 100 is mental. It doesn't matter if the manufacturer set the peak temperature wrong, a computer whose cpu reaches 100 degrees celsius is simply built incorrectly. If nothing else, i…

I somehow doubt that, are you looking at the same temperature? I haven't seen a laptop that would have thermal stop under 95 for a long time and any gaming laptop will run at 95 under load for package temps.

i7 8550u. Google confirms it stabilizes at 80-85C.

That said, there's a difference between a laptop cpu turbo boosting to 90 for a few minutes and a desktop cpu, which are usually cooler anyway, running at 100 sustained for three hours.

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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> Looking at my energy meter statistics, I usually ended up at about 9.x kWh per day for a two-person household, cooking with induction. > After switching my PC from Intel to AMD, I end up at 10-11 kWh per day. It's kind of impressive to increase household electricity consumption by 10% by just switching one CPU.

I guess the author runs it at high load for long times, not only for the benchmarks to write this blog post. And less than 10 kWh is a low starting point, many households would be much higher.

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

#98
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It's crazy how unreliable CPUs have become in the last 5 years or so, both AMD and Intel. And it seems they're all running at their limit from the factory, whereas 10-20 years ago they usually had ample headroom for overclocking.

The 7800X3D is amazing here, runs extremely cool and stable, you can push it far above its defaults and it still won’t get to 80C even with air cooling. Mine was running between 60-70 under load with PBO set to high. Unfortunately it seems its successor is not that great :/

The 7000 series of CPUs is NOT known for running cool, unlike the AMD 5000 series (which are basically server CPUs repurposed for desktop usage). In the 7000 series, AMD decided to just increase the power of each CPU and that's where most of the performance gains are coming from - but power consumption is 40-50% higher than with similar 5000-series CPUs.

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

#99
post #67

Seems like failure in choosing cooling solutions. These high-end chips have obscene cooling needs. My guess would be using something that was not designed for TDP in question. Sufficient cooler, with sufficient airflow is always needed.

A badly optimized CPU will take excessive amounts of power. The "failure in choosing cooling solutions" excuse is just the pot calling the kettle black.
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