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OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Post by thoroughburro »

j1000 wrote: post #59
bgwalter wrote: post #46

"AI will be disruptive. Jobs will look different, companies will have to adapt, and all of us – from shift workers to CEOs – will have to learn how to work in new ways," she said in a blog post. We don't have to do anything. People always listen to this propaganda from the wealthy and think the latest gadgets are inevitable. We can go on a general strike until copyright is restored and the "AI" companies go bankrupt.…

Finally some common sense here. This is exactly my thoughts, how come in age of instant information flow people cannot gather together under one idea. How French Revolution could happen without Messenger and WhatsUp? People had to walk and talk about idea. AI CEOs are talking like they are oracles but they just need to please stakeholders.

> how come in age of instant information flow people cannot gather together under one idea

Because instant misinformation is even faster and satisfies their biases.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Post by tjr »

toader wrote: post #66
smt88 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not irony so much as it is brazenly criminal. No one should be in a position of training someone else's AI to replace their job function without consenting to it and without being compensated. The most valuable thing AI can do right now is write code, and it couldn't do that without thousands of StackOverflow volunteers.

Wouldn't the language / frameworks documentation be sufficient?

At what point in the system?

If you have an LLM that was trained on (say) everything on the internet except for programming, and then trained it on the Python.org online documentation, would that be enough for it to start programming Python? I've not tried, but I get the impression that it needs to see lots and lots of examples first.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Post by an0malous »

nicce wrote: post #76
keiferski wrote: post #26

IIRC this is a background premise in William Gibson’s The Peripheral. Most jobs are either for a tech company, or at a Walmart-esque store that has eaten all other retail.

I haven’t read the book, and I should. The series was really good. Too bad they cancelled it for being too expensive.

People don’t cancel things because they’re expensive, costs are a known and predictable quantity. They cancel things because they don’t make enough to justify the costs.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Post by SwtCyber »

x187463 wrote: post #7

How many jobs have they actually 'eaten'? For now, we mostly have AI labs and those in proximity claiming some number of jobs will be obsolete, but the actual job loss has yet to manifest.

We've definitely seen impact in areas like copywriting, customer service, and basic coding tasks, but it’s more nibbling at the edges than wholesale devouring

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Post by muldvarp »

SwtCyber wrote: post #87
ryanackley wrote: post #38

There is something kafkaesque about these giant tech companies restricting what you can talk to the AI about under the name of ethics while at the same time openly planning to replace you in the workforce.

It's like being lectured on ethical behavior by the thing that's actively eating your lunch

Why do you think automating software development is any less ethical than automating other jobs (which many software developers actively engaged in)?

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Post by thoroughburro »

bgwalter wrote: post #46

"AI will be disruptive. Jobs will look different, companies will have to adapt, and all of us – from shift workers to CEOs – will have to learn how to work in new ways," she said in a blog post. We don't have to do anything. People always listen to this propaganda from the wealthy and think the latest gadgets are inevitable. We can go on a general strike until copyright is restored and the "AI" companies go bankrupt.…

> We can go on a general strike until copyright is restored and the "AI" companies go bankrupt. Journalists can write sharper and sharper articles. You can refuse to use "AI".

This sounds like naive wishful thinking. Add “theoretically” after every “can” for real life.

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Post by myko »

jajko wrote: post #78
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's oppressive and nightmarish because we are at the mercy of large conglomerates tracking every move we make and kicking our livelyhoods out from under ourselves, while also censoring AI to make it more amenable to pro-corporate speech. Imagine if ChatGPT gave "do a luigi" as a solution to walmart tracking your face, gait, device fingerprints, location, and payment details, then offering that data to local police f…

Yeah but what we are all whining here about (apart from folks working on llms and/or holding bigger stocks of such, a non-trivial and a vocal group here) has hit many other jobs already in the past. Very often thanks to our own work. It is funny, in worst way possible of course, that even our chairs are not as stable as we thought they are. Even automation can be somehow automated away. Remember all those posts stati…

Having used agentic ai (Claude Code, Gemini CLI) and other LLM based tools quite a bit for development work I just don't see it replacing developers anytime soon. Sure a lot of my job now is cleaning up code created by these tools but they are not building usable systems without a lot of developer oversight. I think they'll create more software developer roles and specialties.

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Post by keiferski »

nicce wrote: post #76
keiferski wrote: post #26

IIRC this is a background premise in William Gibson’s The Peripheral. Most jobs are either for a tech company, or at a Walmart-esque store that has eaten all other retail.

I haven’t read the book, and I should. The series was really good. Too bad they cancelled it for being too expensive.

I liked the first half of the series, but it gradually became a generic superhero show.

The book, however, is excellent- definitely recommend.

Re: OpenAI eats jobs, then offers to help you find a new one at Walmart

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Post by SwtCyber »

nerpderp82 wrote: post #67

The endgame for all AI companies is to replace all of labor. Everyone's use of AI through their chat and api endpoints is training those replacements right now.

And when the dust settles, the same companies will turn around and sell us the cure for the problem they engineered
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