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Melvyn Bragg steps down from presenting In Our Time

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Re: Melvyn Bragg steps down from presenting In Our Time

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I believe that to be precise they check for the Today programme, the Radio 4 current-affairs slot where Cabinet ministers go to get monstered.

The Today program is a shadow of its former self I think, as is a lot of BBC News today.

Laura Keunsburg completely neutered the BBC.

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They closed off the website to unregistered in the UK too, last time I tried to access content it asked me for a license number (I don't have a TV license). I used to follow topical comedy podcasts but they put a large delay in their publication cycle so they're no longer topical. They also nag you to install the app. They seem often to just repeat the worst habits of commercial media.

They ask if you have a licence with a Yes / No choice. They don't ask for the licence number, which I'd be surprised if anyone in these islands could recall. Rather charmingly, they assume you will be honest in your answer.

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> he was clearly finding it harder and harder towards the end Very reminiscent of Sir Patrick Moore presenting his final episodes of The Sky at Night. (Sadly missed).

Shows my age I guess that I only really associate Patrick Moore with GamesMaster.

He continued presenting the Sky At Night for more than a decade after Games Master ended.

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You could see this coming with his voice weakening over the years. It’s nice that he was able to continue for as long as he did. My weekly dose of highbrow-ness from the UK: 1. In Our Time 2. University Challenge I highly recommend the back catalog In Our Time if you want some good brain fodder on an amazingly wide range of subjects.

Also - obviously annual not weekly - don't forget the Reith Lectures (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00729d9): long-form lecture series by (often) the most brilliant people of their time. Back catalogue available from 1948 in podcast form. Recommend starting with Bertrand Russell in the inaugural lectures - he's fantastic to listen to, even now.

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> the amazing resources of BBC radio (that precede all modern internet podcasts and the best of which still wipe the floor with most of them) are often forgotten I don't know, there are some definite bright spots like IOT but the typical output of Radio 4 is definitely not massively in advance of the big podcasts. The Rest Is History/Politics are clearly hugely popular inside the UK and basically constitute "the comp…

I was a massive fan of TRIP at the start but these days I find it tedious to listen to sometimes.

The News Agents has almost entirely replaced TRIP for me. I still like some of their Leading interviews but TRIP itself I've gone right off.

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Its odd that when places like HN or Reddit ask for favourite podcasts the amazing resources of BBC radio (that precede all modern internet podcasts and the best of which still wipe the floor with most of them) are often forgotten. In Our Time represents the best of the form, and the BBC, and that's significantly down to the excellence of Bragg. The archive (you may need a VPN outside the UK): https://www.bbc.co.uk/pr…

I do feel that IOT would benefit from being longer - it often feels rushed. Podcasts excel at "deep dives" in a way that radio is barred from doing: a podcaster can say "I think I'm gonna do 30 hours on George Jones this year" (real example), and nobody can stop them. IOT's format has a lot of statements, but not many questions. Bragg doesn't often say "hold on, what are the consequences of that?" (unless it's a prep…

The time pressure is probably more important than you realise.

The guests are often pretty eminent academics, feted in their field and used to being indulged. There have been some I know that very much enjoy the sound of their own voice as they tediously ramble for hours, bending any topic to their own pet themes, with colleagues and students obediently hanging on their words. Melvyn has the stature to get testy "Enough about his wife, you still haven't answered the question, get on with it!" and the Oxford emeritus professor complies.

The after show chat works because it's post-time-crunch. It's pressure release and reflection. If you do recruitment this is something to learn. You will have a much more valuable interaction after you have scraped off interviewee armour.

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VPN to the UK and pull the back catalogue from the BBC using get_iplayer, don't get it from the podcast feed

You don't even need VPN, you can just straight download the mp3 file of each episode https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl/episodes/downloads Only the streaming options (iPlayer and Sounds) are geolocked

This seems like a treasure trove. Thanks for sharing this link!

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I'll do the opposite: The P vs NP episode is aboslutely horrid. Probably the first and last time that they had any informatics people on the show. One major issue is that the experts didn't explain what we mean by "hard". Melvyn thought, as normal people do, that 'hard problem' means you've gotta be real clever to solve it, not that it takes a lot of steps to solve (and how the number of steps increases as the proble…

In 45 minutes assuming only the education of the (wo)man on the Clapham Omnibus explaining P vs NP is always going to be extremely difficult. I've never made the mistake of thinking that after a 45 minute episode of in our time on, say, Cyrus the Great, that I'm now in a position to write an essay on the man. I would assume that none M/NS/CS types don't make that mistake after listening to the episode on P vs NP.

I'm not sure what the goal was here, that's not what I'm saying.

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Melvyn Bragg would always rush the experts, pressuring them to get to the point asap. I found him a bit off-putting and even rude at times, but it was what made made the show unique and never stagnant.

I found it so off-putting, I couldn't really listen to the show. On some episodes he would basically lead them through his notes, as if he were the expert and was having to suffer these people explaining things badly to him.

Bragg has been a strong force in intellectual culture in the UK for many decades. I remember my Mum and Sister being upset by a trailer for The South Bank Show back in the early 1980s, and he was a prominent "elder statesman" figure of the media by then, really - so he's had very good run.

But to be honest, I am hoping we get somebody a little bit less frumpy and grumpy picking up the space he will inevitably leave behind. I just hope it's not closed down and we end up with more middling dross.

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