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Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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How do you measure viable? Twitter is still the best place to hear and read about breaking news.

>Twitter is still the best place to hear and read about breaking news.

only if you don't care if what you're reading is true or not. I never really understood twitter or sites with user generated content as a medium for news. I'm just as well off waiting until some news room checks it and reports it in a format that doesn't have me wasting time scrolling through a sea of posts.

The only thing I need in the next five minutes is an earthquake or flood warning and for that I thankfully live in a place that has a public alert system.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#92
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Which interestingly was almost exclusively far right accounts. He shadow banned 3-4 and kicked a few others off X premium (so they don't get paid for tweets). Which X claimed was for spamming him and others after they disagreed with him over supporting H1B visas. But he's definitely not a neutral actor so who knows. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/23/business/elon...

>But he's definitely not a neutral actor so who knows. Which other billionaire media moguls are neutral actors? Rupert Murdoch? Ted Turner? Jeff Bezos? None of them are, because the value of media is based on its ability to control public opinion and influence elections. Otherwise none of the guys I mentioned at the top would be in that business. "If you don't follow media you're uninformed, if you do you're misinfor…

I know it was a rhetorical question but Phil Knight and his son with Laika studios are the only example of rich guys in media who are actually doing it for the love of the game

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#94

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Did you know you can just ignore politics? There are filters. When it comes to politics everyone seems to be a retard, even figures like Paul Graham being a genius in one field, while being a complete moron in all others.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which interestingly was almost exclusively far right accounts. He shadow banned 3-4 and kicked a few others off X premium (so they don't get paid for tweets). Which X claimed was for spamming him and others after they disagreed with him over supporting H1B visas. But he's definitely not a neutral actor so who knows. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/23/business/elon...

>But he's definitely not a neutral actor so who knows. Which other billionaire media moguls are neutral actors? Rupert Murdoch? Ted Turner? Jeff Bezos? None of them are, because the value of media is based on its ability to control public opinion and influence elections. Otherwise none of the guys I mentioned at the top would be in that business. "If you don't follow media you're uninformed, if you do you're misinfor…

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Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#96

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Did you know you can just ignore politics? There are filters. When it comes to politics everyone seems to be a retard, even figures like Paul Graham being a genius in one field, while being a complete moron in all others.

Did you know politics won't ignore you? One day you wake up in a dictatorship that prohibits whatever you find important in your life.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#97
I continue to be skeptical of hanging hopes for 'free speech' on expecting free-as-in-beer, ad-supported, privately owned websites to actively promote the things that you write.

Irrespective of how Musk's overall social media posturing portrays "free speech" -- X is the only one whose speech matters and they are apparently choosing to 'speak' in ways that don't support him. They are technically doing this guy a favor by letting him post on their site in the first place, and in an algorithmic timeline it is impossible to justify how much reach his posts "should" have vs. how much they do have.

If someone wants to post their speech, they should do so on their own website that they pay for and control. They should purchase advertising if they're not satisfied with their traffic. Thwarting those things -- now that's unethical government censorship, which one can justifiably be mad about. Depending on the government in question it may or may not be unconstitutional.

Relying on X or Meta or whomever to distribute your speech just because there's some vague notion of non-interference in speech on such platforms in the countries where they're based is foolish when you live somewhere else with different laws. Even if the US constitution had some draconian provision to force X to promote his speech, that can't really protect him in Turkiye where the government can just block X.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#98
post #61

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Decentralized socials haven't found a great way to generate informational bandwidth comparable to peak Twitter. Twitter demographic is thoroughly desensitized with data bandwidth and will not move to alternatives that don't offer current Twitter even though it's nowhere near the rosy peak.

> comparable to peak Twitter

This is an unnecessarily high bar. Otherwise Mastodon works fine and won't be enshittified.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #20

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Can you source this claim because Twitter turned a lot of heads when it didn't comply with content restrictions elsewhere in the Mediterranean and faced website blocks (that they retained Moxie to help circumvent)... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_Ara...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Twitter

Am I reading it correctly that there are no instances on that wikipedia after Elon's purchase (other than the Substack incident?)

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#100

Misleading title. There is no proof at all, just speculation in this post. From the last paragraph: "We don’t have solid proof, but it strongly suggests that X is secretly shadow banning İmamoğlu. I don’t think Elon Musk will change this, but I’m writing this article to show the political power he holds."

Proof has never stopped these people from making claims.
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