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Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by anthk »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #84
devinprater wrote: post #59

I'll let other blind people go first, but I'm definitely some one that would love, love, love to be able to see. Driving, knowing body language, playing any and every video game out there, shoot yeah!

Why would you not go first? If you are blind it cannot be worse (well it can, but there are always risks). My wife went through semi-expetimental therapy (at that time) for her MS. It was tough but ultimately a net benefit. It all depends on what is at stake - I would consider Ozempic for some weight loss but prefer, for now , go for no sugar and moderate portions. This is not life changing for me so I indeed prefer…

That's funny because Ozempic can blind you.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by marknutter »

erulabs wrote: post #67
ActorNightly wrote: post #45

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Not trying to be snarky, but doesn't this mental model effectively allow you to ignore any/all things otherwise intelligent people have to say, simply because you disagree? If I met Einstein, and he had opinions about how to cook chicken that differed from mine, I wouldn't leap to "he's a complete moron in the kitchen!", i'd be inclined to really attempt to understand the difference of opinion. I'm not disagreeing th…

"anyone who can think critically leans towards the Democratic party" isn't something anyone who's actually intelligent would ever say.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by ACCount37 »

idiomat9000 wrote: post #4

I did not see any breakthroughs in neural link patents. Have they solved neural scaring?

This appears to be at least a partial solve for it.

Older implants are notorious for having that issue - and while scarring doesn't appear to hurt the brain all that much, it sure does hurt the connectivity.

The usual "bed of nails" Utah array typically deteriorates massively within 6 months. Neuralink's very first human implant has lasted for what, a year and a half already? It had issues with dislodged electrodes, which must have hurt the interface quality, but it still remains usable. That's a damn good sign.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by loeg »

anthk wrote: post #91
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you not go first? If you are blind it cannot be worse (well it can, but there are always risks). My wife went through semi-expetimental therapy (at that time) for her MS. It was tough but ultimately a net benefit. It all depends on what is at stake - I would consider Ozempic for some weight loss but prefer, for now , go for no sugar and moderate portions. This is not life changing for me so I indeed prefer…

That's funny because Ozempic can blind you.

It’s associated, not causal, and likely explained by diabetes as a 3rd variable. (Diabetes can blind you and glp-1 drugs are treatments for diabetes.)

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by tptacek »

anthk wrote: post #91
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you not go first? If you are blind it cannot be worse (well it can, but there are always risks). My wife went through semi-expetimental therapy (at that time) for her MS. It was tough but ultimately a net benefit. It all depends on what is at stake - I would consider Ozempic for some weight loss but prefer, for now , go for no sugar and moderate portions. This is not life changing for me so I indeed prefer…

That's funny because Ozempic can blind you.

Super uncertain, and, if the effect exists, it's tiny --- huge numbers of people have been taking these drugs for many years. Meanwhile, we know with certainty that T2D can blind you, and we know mechanistically why that happens. If you're at T2D risk, NAION would be a really dumb reason to avoid GLP-1s.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by ethersteeds »

germinalphrase wrote: post #39
xg15 wrote: post #13

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Divisive is an understatement. If this tech could be made to work flawlessly, it would be the gate to all the SciFi cyborg stuff, including body enhancements, "telepathy", etc. Also, as a "side effect", it would open a path to fully immersive VR, as in Matrix, Snow Crash, Neuromancer, etc - with all the upsides and downsides of those scenarios. All that "just" from hooking up motor and sensor neurons. And then people…

The dystopian downside is significant. It is not difficult to come up with half a dozen horrific outcomes of this technology.

Unskippable preroll ads in your dreams. A whole new meaning to "sentiment analysis".

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by crote »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #84
devinprater wrote: post #59

I'll let other blind people go first, but I'm definitely some one that would love, love, love to be able to see. Driving, knowing body language, playing any and every video game out there, shoot yeah!

Why would you not go first? If you are blind it cannot be worse (well it can, but there are always risks). My wife went through semi-expetimental therapy (at that time) for her MS. It was tough but ultimately a net benefit. It all depends on what is at stake - I would consider Ozempic for some weight loss but prefer, for now , go for no sugar and moderate portions. This is not life changing for me so I indeed prefer…

It's a brain chip. How do you feel about being blind and paralyzed? Or comatose? Or dead? How about never-ending pain or constant bright flashes? What if they go bankrupt, and something happens to the implant?

Brain surgery isn't exactly an industry where "move fast and break things" is an acceptable approach - especially when you are the patient. Considering Neuralink's historical record, going first sounds like a horrible idea to me.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by fsniper »

ethersteeds wrote: post #96
germinalphrase wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dystopian downside is significant. It is not difficult to come up with half a dozen horrific outcomes of this technology.

Unskippable preroll ads in your dreams. A whole new meaning to "sentiment analysis".

Futurama! Just watched that episode today.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by Veserv »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #2

There is a great podcast with the entire team + Noland on yt. It is ~ 8h long, but IMO it's worth the time. You get to hear things from the perspective of the chief brain surgeon, hardware team, software team, and of course Noland himself. I really recommend it, to get a better understanding of what's possible, what they had to do to get there, and how impactful this kind of research is for people with terrible condi…

Still the same depraved head of neurosurgery, Dr. Matthew MacDougall, who said: "If tomorrow laws were changed and the FDA said okay you can do some of this early experimentation in willing human participants that would be a very interesting option I think there would be a lot of people that would step up." [1]

That is basically the textbook definition of unethical medical practice, so unquestionably far over the line of acceptable practice that you would have to be willfully ignorant to defend it, and they think it would be exciting if it were not banned.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZGItIAUQmI&t=5239s

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by justin66 »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #84
devinprater wrote: post #59

I'll let other blind people go first, but I'm definitely some one that would love, love, love to be able to see. Driving, knowing body language, playing any and every video game out there, shoot yeah!

Why would you not go first? If you are blind it cannot be worse (well it can, but there are always risks). My wife went through semi-expetimental therapy (at that time) for her MS. It was tough but ultimately a net benefit. It all depends on what is at stake - I would consider Ozempic for some weight loss but prefer, for now , go for no sugar and moderate portions. This is not life changing for me so I indeed prefer…

> If you are blind it cannot be worse

Holy moly.

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