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4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Ofcom's only card now is to have UK ISPs block 4chan. When that happens will Starlink comply? maybe. what if they block X? could get messy fast.

Not the only card according to the article >"Ofcom can instead ask a court to order other services to disrupt a provider's UK business, such as requiring a service's removal from search results or blocking of UK payments.

>or blocking of uk payments

Lol

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

#92
post #77

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While I disapprove of what the gov is doing here, I think it’s incorrect and unhelpful to put all the blame on them. AIUI, the UK is a democracy and these policies are generally supported by the voters.

really? From my anecdotal evidence, is that it's fucking stupid and hated

Weirdly, the majority of the British public a) support age verification, b) aren't willing to use age verification themselves and c) don't think it'll actually work.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/britons-back-online-safety-acts-...

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

#93

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For you - not for 99% of the public.

Ehh, if a youth of digital piracy has taught me anything, it's that people will develop the necessary computer literacy to get the entertainment they want. Even if they've completely failed to develop that same skill in the pursuit of self improvement. I feel that says something about human psychology. Probably something very unpleasant.

Human adaptivity is perhaps both our biggest strength and biggest weakness. It's the same force behind our greatest innovations and our greatest tragedies, and even fuels the apathetic indifference towards those tragedies, too.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

#94
post #8

>If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access. Well again I guess the UK never heard of VPNs, but they are trying to ban them still, it is like these pols have no clue how the internet works. They never learn these actions are like playing wack-a-mole.

VPNs are next: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn438z3ejxyo

Note that the children's commissioner is only an advisor to government.

The government itself has said it doesn't believe VPNs should be outlawed - that's even stated in the article.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

#95
post #61

I assumed 4chan didn't exist anymore and it was renamed/replaced by another board... Great advertisement. The UK acts like a madman on fire trying to attack everybody.

In a way it does not exist any more. Most of the threads are started by 4chan-GPT yes this is a thing and most replies to threads are 4chan-GPT. They uses 4chan passes to allow proxies and not have to deal with a craptcha. Anyone could start their own chan, implement GPT bots and have the same level of popularity. I would wager a dozen HN'ers could implement this in a day. I think the goal on 4chan is controlling the…

> yes this is a thing and most replies to threads are 4chan-GPT

Do you have proof of this?

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Be careful what you ask for. History has proven that such a group will exist at some point.

System's got that on lock by setting it up so the people most predisposed to fight the government are actually cheering on the new taxes. Information/policy/consent flowing the opposite way from how is commonly understood has been my critique of democracy for a long time, but the effect just keeps growing. Social media is a hell of a drug.

> System's got that on lock by setting it up so the people most predisposed to fight the government are actually cheering on the new taxes

more likely, proving that this group of people never actually believed in anything.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

#97
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> the site administrators have willingly chosen to not follow UK law while still allowing UK residents to access the site.

I happily don't follow a lot of countries' laws. 'Willingly', is another matter which implies malfeasance of some sort.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

#98

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really? From my anecdotal evidence, is that it's fucking stupid and hated

there's a reason anecdotes aren't data. While people are more divided on the effectiveness, there's pretty overwhelming pubblic support for laws like the Online Safety Act. https://yougov.co.uk/technology/articles/52693-how-have-brit... It's always slightly surprising to see Americans online react to this thinking there is some Illuminati conspiracy happening. Britain and Europe are not the US, we don't have much of…

> It's always slightly surprising to see Americans online react to this thinking there is some Illuminati conspiracy happening. Britain and Europe are not the US, we don't have much of an interest of having 4chan dictate public policy.

Too late by about nine years at the very least.

Re: 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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really? From my anecdotal evidence, is that it's fucking stupid and hated

there's a reason anecdotes aren't data. While people are more divided on the effectiveness, there's pretty overwhelming pubblic support for laws like the Online Safety Act. https://yougov.co.uk/technology/articles/52693-how-have-brit... It's always slightly surprising to see Americans online react to this thinking there is some Illuminati conspiracy happening. Britain and Europe are not the US, we don't have much of…

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