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Re: Apple has not destroyed Steve Jobs' vision for iPad

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Post by anonymousiam » Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 5:37 AM UTC

kalleboo wrote: post #88

anonymousiam wrote: post #82

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Additional crippled features: - Requirement to use ONLY the Apple web renderer (WebKit) - Why does my iPad Pro take minutes to refresh my email boxes and show new messages, when it's not doing anything else at all? Email on all my other devices is snappy. - Little or no support for emulation of other platforms. - No way to turn off participation in the "Find My" BLE mesh network. I'd rather have a choice about whethe…

> No way to turn off participation in the "Find My" BLE mesh network There is a setting to disable participation in the "Find My network" under "Settings > [your name] > Find My > Find My iPhone/iPad > Find My network"

You're confusing opting out of the Find My functionality with opting out of their mesh network, which there is no way to do unless you turn off Bluetooth, which has other undesirable consequences.

Re: Apple has not destroyed Steve Jobs' vision for iPad

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Post by kalleboo » Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 6:38 AM UTC

anonymousiam wrote: post #91

kalleboo wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No way to turn off participation in the "Find My" BLE mesh network There is a setting to disable participation in the "Find My network" under "Settings > [your name] > Find My > Find My iPhone/iPad > Find My network"

You're confusing opting out of the Find My functionality with opting out of their mesh network, which there is no way to do unless you turn off Bluetooth, which has other undesirable consequences.

There are two separate options on that screen.

One is "Find My iPhone/iPad" which just turns off the functionality.

The second one is "Find My network" which opts out of the mesh network. This one has a description that starts with "Participating in the Find My network..." since turning it off means you are no longer participating in the mesh network.

https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/find-my/

> "When your device participates in the Find My network, it can both be located by the network and anonymously help locate other missing devices. You can choose to have your iOS or iPadOS device not participate in the Find My network by going to Settings[...]"

Re: Apple has not destroyed Steve Jobs' vision for iPad

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Post by gregoriol » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 8:20 AM UTC

Almondsetat wrote: post #90

bigyabai wrote: post #89

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Silly and worthless is your own editorializing. And unlike Vision Pro or Apple Watch, the toy I posted this comment with can write and publish software. Or host a website. Gasp, install real browser engines! Calling the Vision Pro a "toy" is a generosity for something that isn't fun or seriously intended for use by children. The Quest is a toy, the Vision Pro is a black eye for moneyed adults that lack responsible im…

You call the Vision Pro "not fun", as if your own personal opinion constituted fact. You also characterize the buyers of the Vision Pro as "lacking impulse control when they're marketed something funny", which is not only belittling and condescending, but also an utterly unwarranted generalization.

He is right though. The facts are that the thing has been bought by people for show, and not used for anything useful at all ever. This says quite much about the buyers and the product.

Re: Apple has not destroyed Steve Jobs' vision for iPad

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Post by Almondsetat » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 5:03 PM UTC

gregoriol wrote: post #93

Almondsetat wrote: post #90

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You call the Vision Pro "not fun", as if your own personal opinion constituted fact. You also characterize the buyers of the Vision Pro as "lacking impulse control when they're marketed something funny", which is not only belittling and condescending, but also an utterly unwarranted generalization.

He is right though. The facts are that the thing has been bought by people for show, and not used for anything useful at all ever. This says quite much about the buyers and the product.

No it doesn't. You are just trying to rationalize your insulting prejudices