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Job Listing Site Highlighting H-1B Positions So Americans Can Apply

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I can’t even tell how this would be different from what is commonly termed as human trafficking.

willing participants perhaps

Curious, just based in the facts of what has been stated - does this pass the sniff test to you, not exploitative at all?

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I think it’s really fascinating when you go the the actual website that can be found here: https://www.jobs.now There are clearly jobs listed here like bookkeeper that no shortage exists for and doesn’t seem to require any specialized skill. I find it fascinating to see the type of jobs that are listed. Also all the jobs clearly have pay ranges! It’s very humorous to me that when I was looking for a job, most jobs di…

It's absurd to think bookkeepers are in such short supply that we need to provide permanent residency to a foreigner to do the job over an American.

One position is at a Chinese company in San Francisco with salary that's hardly livable there. They like h1b because they can be underpaid and overworked (abused).

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I can't figure out how they know the job is related to the PERM program. I looked at a job posting and didn't see an indication, does Jobs.now read from filings with USCIS or DOL?

There are a few tells. The biggest one is that they require you to send in a paper resume to some random address. The other tell is that the salaries are often very under market for that region.

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At least one company I worked at purposefully crafted these job descriptions so that no one would be qualified. They'd find the most obscure parts of our tech stack, require hands on experience with each library, knowledge of our niche, and so on. You basically had to be already working for us to have the required experience.

The companies are just trying to work with the flawed system that is place. Even if a role is in shortage, it’s impossible for a company by itself to prove that there is a shortage. If in the total market, there are 10000 jobs for “position X” and there are 8000 total US citizens that qualify for that role, if you are a company that has an H1B for the other 2000 positions, there is no way you can prove there is a sho…

If it's impossible to do right then we need to get rid of H1Bs entirely.

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To be clear, H1B is not an immigrant intent visa. It’s a non-immigrant visa. “Dual intent” is like Schrödinger's intent. It allows someone who is on a non-immigrant visa to avoid the presumption of immigrant intent that would otherwise apply—rendering them deportable—when they apply for a green card. The statutory protection for H1Bs is thin. In 1990, Congress excluded H1B from the requirement applicable to other non…

I guess "plausible deniability" is the best anyone intending to immigrate to the US can do. It's crazy how difficult we make it.

The system is byzantine because it is a hack around public opinion. Since 1965, support for more immigration peaked around 35%: https://nypost.com/2022/08/08/more-americans-want-fewer-immi..., with everyone else wanting it to either stay the same or be reduced.

The 1965 immigration act was sold to americans on the idea that it was simply ending country-origin discrimination, and wouldn’t increase immigration or change america’s demographics: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/podcasts/the-daily/electi....

So Congress can take advantage of the fact that a lot of people are okay with the status quo, but can’t affirmatively enact legislation that would be seen as creating a new pathway for permanent immigration. So the current system was built on a series of small measures that could fly under the radar. Eliminating the rebuttable presumption of immigrant intent in subsection blah blah blah doesn’t sound like it’s going to create a new pathway for permanent immigrants.

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Agreed that H1B should have better job posting requirements, but this pre-green card check seems like a great mechanism to ensure we're not long-term giving jobs to non-US Nationals

The problem is that temporary worker programs are a bait and switch. It’s impossible to send people back after they’ve been here for a decade. Any notion that the PERM adjustment is another opportunity to double check will be hard to water down the process for the initial H1B visa grant. And then the PERM check will be gamed. That is, in fact, how the State Department turned the H visa category (created in the 1960s)…

You're not wrong. I am in favor of abolishing H1B. Guest workers should by minimal and exceptional

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> You have ~60 days from the date of employment termination to have your work permit transferred or you are out of status, period. What the hell else supposed to happen to your temp worker visa when you’re no longer a worker? Are you supposed to just get an immigration hall pass indefinitely? Same point as in sibling thread - if you cant get a new job lined up while still employed or within 60 days of being laid off,…

I'm sorry but treating these as equivalent things is rather disingenuous to me: > if you cant get a new job lined up while still employed or within 60 days of being laid off Lining up a job while you are still employed is something you control. Being unexpectedly thrust into the job market due to layoffs for instance is something you don't , and the state of the job market you enter is equally something you don't con…

You're absolutely right - I should have taken that sweet blue card $60K/y gig instead of slaving away here on h-1b all those years. Nvm you get paid like third to a half of what average h-1b makes but you get all this power in the form of additional 30d to find a new gig.

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The only effect of applying to jobs on jobs.now is that someone who is already working in the US on H1-B, and was gonna get green card if you hadn't applied, would instead stay on H1-B.

Okay but the 2nd order effect of doing this is that we're not permanently bringing in competitors for US jobs

I'd just like to point out that it seems like what you're ultimately against is pure capitalism. You seem to be in favor of Nationalism.

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Not seeing the "top talent" part at least from the H1B I have worked with which is probably in the hundreds at this point.

i am 0/60 lol

I mentioned those companies above because I’m not sure how to go about arguing it. This is a 40 year long struggle that no politician or president wants to talk about. We have gotten to the point where the companies I listed are 70 percent Indian . H1B abuse is clearly rampant, but it’s, I think, a nepotistic hiring spree they are going through. How is Fannie Mae 70% Indian? They can’t hire that many H-1Bs. How is Deloitt, and all the companies listed the the same? We are being colonized I’m trying to appeal to the masses.

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I find it rather strange that you talk about them as if they are two separate things when they are intrinsically linked. You have ~60 days from the date of employment termination to have your work permit transferred or you are out of status, period. Leaving your job (whether via resigning or getting fired or laid off) without something already lined up is thus quite obviously much more risky than it is for someone wh…

> You have ~60 days from the date of employment termination to have your work permit transferred or you are out of status, period. What the hell else supposed to happen to your temp worker visa when you’re no longer a worker? Are you supposed to just get an immigration hall pass indefinitely? Same point as in sibling thread - if you cant get a new job lined up while still employed or within 60 days of being laid off,…

If someone is sexually harassed or assaulted while being on an H1B and becomes ill because of it, what should they do? People often have to take months off of work to recover from workplace sexual assault.

Any imbalance of power is a vector for sexual harassment, assault, or discrimination in general.

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