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Ex-Google Exec Says "The Idea That AI Will Create New Jobs Is 100% Crap"

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Re: Ex-Google Exec Says "The Idea That AI Will Create New Jobs Is 100% Crap"

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The full interview this comes from is off the rails. Gawdat says we'll have AGI by 2026 at the absolute latest, and that we will have artificial super intelligence in the immediate future. He guarantees that after destroying jobs, within 15 years we will be in a "utopia" controlled by AI. It's an absurd level of confidence for an extremely bold prediction. In his last interview from this series in 2023, Gawdat said t…

Thank you for saving me from even the slightest temptation to read anything from this guy.

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Software industry needs a healthy shake out anyway. Too many people came in for the money. The current shake out involves either stunting people inside vibe coding such that they are functionally retarded, or straight up leave them long-term unemployed. Honestly, the only reason anyone would stick around is because this is all they know or like. I would not fuck around with this career if you ain’t about that life. B…

developers hate project managers because they force them to deliver instead of forever being nerd sniped

Well yes, because getting nerd sniped is fun, and 99.99% of ideas for software are boring bullshit.

Re: Ex-Google Exec Says "The Idea That AI Will Create New Jobs Is 100% Crap"

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Software industry needs a healthy shake out anyway. Too many people came in for the money. The current shake out involves either stunting people inside vibe coding such that they are functionally retarded, or straight up leave them long-term unemployed. Honestly, the only reason anyone would stick around is because this is all they know or like. I would not fuck around with this career if you ain’t about that life. B…

developers hate project managers because they force them to deliver instead of forever being nerd sniped

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Re: Ex-Google Exec Says "The Idea That AI Will Create New Jobs Is 100% Crap"

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The full interview this comes from is off the rails. Gawdat says we'll have AGI by 2026 at the absolute latest, and that we will have artificial super intelligence in the immediate future. He guarantees that after destroying jobs, within 15 years we will be in a "utopia" controlled by AI. It's an absurd level of confidence for an extremely bold prediction. In his last interview from this series in 2023, Gawdat said t…

> Gawdat says we'll have AGI by 2026 at the absolute latest

...has he looked at a calendar lately? I just did, and it turns out that 2026 is less than five months away.

I'm not even going to touch the "alive in every possible way" bullshit.

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Can someone, more informed than me, about the job landscape, name these jobs people keep claiming AI is creating? Thank you in advance.

Anything that contains drudgery that nobody wants to do. AI is automating away all the cool creative jobs, leaving only the garbage ones. Once robotics is up there, those garbage jobs will be gone as well. Then the humanity implodes within 2 generations.

I wouldn't worry about it. Within two generations, the remaining humans will be mainly concerned with surviving in a wrecked ecosystem as best they can.

Re: Ex-Google Exec Says "The Idea That AI Will Create New Jobs Is 100% Crap"

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The full interview this comes from is off the rails. Gawdat says we'll have AGI by 2026 at the absolute latest, and that we will have artificial super intelligence in the immediate future. He guarantees that after destroying jobs, within 15 years we will be in a "utopia" controlled by AI. It's an absurd level of confidence for an extremely bold prediction. In his last interview from this series in 2023, Gawdat said t…

If there is a utopia, it will be for the few who can afford it and the rest of us will suffer greatly for their pleasure.

Re: Ex-Google Exec Says "The Idea That AI Will Create New Jobs Is 100% Crap"

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As a Software Engineer, Gawdat has no expertise in job creation. If an Economist said the same, I'd pay more attention. It's very counterintuitive, but for 250 years tech has constantly eliminated jobs, while unemployment rates have stayed the same. People have always predicted this would lead to mass unemployment, they've always been wrong, and yet they've kept predicting it. One way to explain it is that unemployed…

I think the current capabilities of AI are basically trash. But at the same time, just because something has not happened, does not mean that it cannot happen. I think AI becomes salable as a replacement for people not because it's amazing, but because there are things outsourced labor is truly bad at. So in the work units where execs have already proven they are happy to destroy jobs to gain incremental revenue, they will do so again. At the same ttime, CEOs will not replace themselves with AI simply because they will make the business decision not to.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You never know beforehand. Before they existed, few would have believed the disappearing jobs would be replaced by web designers, uber drivers, youtubers, drone pilots etc.

so if you don't know beforehand, can you even be sure that "something else" exists?

Strictly speaking, you can't be sure the sun will rise tomorrow, and you should be even less sure about this.

But the sensible thing is to expect strong trends to continue.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

so if you don't know beforehand, can you even be sure that "something else" exists?

Strictly speaking, you can't be sure the sun will rise tomorrow, and you should be even less sure about this. But the sensible thing is to expect strong trends to continue.

the sun "rising" tomorrow is backed by scientific knowledge about the solar system - more jobs by AI - so far - not more than wishful thinking, like many other AI promises (such as saving is from climate change).

Re: Ex-Google Exec Says "The Idea That AI Will Create New Jobs Is 100% Crap"

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The full interview this comes from is off the rails. Gawdat says we'll have AGI by 2026 at the absolute latest, and that we will have artificial super intelligence in the immediate future. He guarantees that after destroying jobs, within 15 years we will be in a "utopia" controlled by AI. It's an absurd level of confidence for an extremely bold prediction. In his last interview from this series in 2023, Gawdat said t…

If there is a utopia, it will be for the few who can afford it and the rest of us will suffer greatly for their pleasure.

The future is looking more and more like Elysium every day. Probably with well-defended walled/gated communities for the elite instead of a space station, but we're on the same societal path...
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