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OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

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Re: OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

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post #88

Since cloudflare is already sponsoring it, I do wonder how much of this type of service can be implemented all on cloudflare. Their stack could be great for tile serving.

I’m also surprised to see nginx and hetzner in this project. Why not entirely Cloudflare: workers, R2, and cache

Re: OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

#92
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"€20/month from Hetzner" is great until you actually need it to be up and working when you need it.

> "€20/month from Hetzner" is great until you actually need it to be up and working when you need it. I managed a few Hetzner cloud instances, and some report perfect uptime for over a year. The ones that don't, I was the root cause. What exactly leads you to make this sort of claim? Do you actually have any data or are you just running your mouth off?

>What exactly leads you to make this sort of claim?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29651993

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42365295

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44038591

>are you just running your mouth off?

Don't be snarky. Edit out swipes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

#93
post #88

Since cloudflare is already sponsoring it, I do wonder how much of this type of service can be implemented all on cloudflare. Their stack could be great for tile serving.

You can run containers now on CF, I think this was one of the last barriers that might have prevented a lot of software being migrated without a re-architecting.

Most stuff could run there now.

Re: OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

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> Nice idea, interesting project, next time please contact me before.

I understand that my popular service might bring your less popular one to the halt, but please configure it on your end so I know _programmatically_ what its capabilities are.

I host no API without rate-limiting. Additionally, clearly listing usage limits might be a good idea.

Re: OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

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post #78
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"€20/month from Hetzner" is great until you actually need it to be up and working when you need it.

IME Hetzner's not unreliable. I don't think you could serve 100k requests per second on a single VPS though. (And with dedicated, you're on the hook for redundancy yourself, same as any dedicated.)

They’re unreliable as soon as you have to deal with their support who have the technical knowledge of a brick.

And as soon as you have to do ant business / deal with the german side of the business expect everything to slow down to 2 weeks for response which will still be incorrect.

They are simply not worth the hassle. Go with a competent host.

Re: OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

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> Nice idea, interesting project, next time please contact me before. I understand that my popular service might bring your less popular one to the halt, but please configure it on your end so I know _programmatically_ what its capabilities are. I host no API without rate-limiting. Additionally, clearly listing usage limits might be a good idea.

I think it’s reasonable to assume that a free service is not going to deal gracefully with your 100k rps hug of death. The fact that it actually did is an exception, not the rule.

If you are hitting anything free with more than 10rps (temporarily) you are an taking advantage in my opinion.

Re: OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IME Hetzner's not unreliable. I don't think you could serve 100k requests per second on a single VPS though. (And with dedicated, you're on the hook for redundancy yourself, same as any dedicated.)

They’re unreliable as soon as you have to deal with their support who have the technical knowledge of a brick. And as soon as you have to do ant business / deal with the german side of the business expect everything to slow down to 2 weeks for response which will still be incorrect. They are simply not worth the hassle. Go with a competent host.

> They’re unreliable as soon as you have to deal with their support who have the technical knowledge of a brick.

Since I never have to, that’s perfect isn’t it? If you need support from Hetzner you are using the wrong host.

Re: OpenFreeMap survived 100k requests per second

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "€20/month from Hetzner" is great until you actually need it to be up and working when you need it. I managed a few Hetzner cloud instances, and some report perfect uptime for over a year. The ones that don't, I was the root cause. What exactly leads you to make this sort of claim? Do you actually have any data or are you just running your mouth off?

>What exactly leads you to make this sort of claim? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29651993 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42365295 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44038591 >are you just running your mouth off? Don't be snarky. Edit out swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

This all seems to be Hetzner Cloud offerings?
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