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Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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I honestly never heard of this person before now. I presume some startupper.

Is that the guy with the purple Porsche? Who or what were we talking about again?

How would I know which car someone I don't know has?

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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VCs fund companies. For them, employee compensation is a cost against their profits. In tech, this is the largest cost by far. The owners of capital deeply deeply deeply want a future where they can earn their billions without paying the rabble anything. AI is selling this idea to them.

and the rabble deeply wants a future where CEOs are deprived of billions because AI has taken their job. Hey, who wants to start a project for CEO.ai?

Unfortunately, it isn't actually about being able to replace somebody from a technical perspective. CEOs are picked by capital and selected from amongst capital. An effective "CEO.ai" wouldn't be used for all the same reasons that an ineffective "Employee.ai" will be used.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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He says that this is not 10,000 lines of bug-filled crap… but, unless you are explicitly verifying and testing the code, how would you know? And, what kind of solution needs 10,000 lines of code added to it daily ? Then again, these could be separate solutions. but, still… this 10,000-lines-of-code-a-day thing seems strange.

Paul Graham became thoroughly Thomas Friedman-ized about 15 years ago. He's a 30,000-foot cheerleader for "innovation" and "free markets" these days.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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Why would anyone care who Paul Graham hangs out with?

many people do care because he provides more signals the guy PG hangs out with is more likely to be legit than a random person

...or just somebody who plays the SV networking game well enough to be in the room. Any number of Adam Neumanns and Sam Bankman-Fried-adjacent personality types could get through that door.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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PG has become a parody of himself.

He was some 20..10 years ago a proponent of succint code and even authored the Arc language which is used to run HN.

Is HN any more sophisticated than a PHPbb forum? The value is in the community and moderation, not the back end.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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how are you even meant to review 10k lines of code a day?

One key process advantage Meta has is that all commits (diffs) require review by someone other than you, preferably supported by added tests and tests passing (whether locally or by automated test infrastructure). It gets more complicated when testing and reducing risk of deploying infrastructure and client platform code rather than pure service-oriented software running as part of an app.

yes, everyone who cares about code quality should do that, that was what I'm talking about - even after automated tests, and automated linting, 10k is a huge amount of code for one person to coherently review each day.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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It is literally impossible for someone to understand what they're "coding" in a day if 10,000 lines (!!) just got farted out of some codegen tools. I cannot believe anyone would say this responsibly with a straight face.

They're not coding, they're not vibe coding, they're asking for the code to an LLM.

When people say "I did this" showing something they did with AI, the reality is "I asked an AI for this". Okay, not every time, but something on this scale would, they don't even know what those 10K lines of code do, they asked and received.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was some 20..10 years ago a proponent of succint code and even authored the Arc language which is used to run HN.

Is HN any more sophisticated than a PHPbb forum? The value is in the community and moderation, not the back end.

Given that is has soldiered on almost two decades as a single-server system, I'd give a bit more credit to the back end.

Re: "I met a founder who writes 10k lines of code a day thanks to AI"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One key process advantage Meta has is that all commits (diffs) require review by someone other than you, preferably supported by added tests and tests passing (whether locally or by automated test infrastructure). It gets more complicated when testing and reducing risk of deploying infrastructure and client platform code rather than pure service-oriented software running as part of an app.

yes, everyone who cares about code quality should do that, that was what I'm talking about - even after automated tests, and automated linting, 10k is a huge amount of code for one person to coherently review each day.

That's absolutely true. Not arguing with that. It's absolutely absurd.

The point of requiring others to review code is it essentially eliminates cowboy coding and incomprehensible crap because another person/people puts their credibility on the line when they sign-off. It doesn't devolve into "trust me, bro, just rubber stamp it" because of the seriousness, professionalism tech culture.

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