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Jeff Bezos doesn't believe in PowerPoint, and his employees agree

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Re: Jeff Bezos doesn't believe in PowerPoint, and his employees agree

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nothing grinds my gears more than "management wisdom" like this and people who then attribute success to small details like that. amazon could have thrived the same way had they used powerpoint, maybe even more. we will never know. also, different people communicate differently. dictating 6-pagers makes you select for people who prefer that, therefore having less diversity in thinking.

The navy seals have been on successful missions and they basically only use PowerPoint for meetings , at least the last time I read a book written by someone senior in the leadership…

In a lot of teams, everyone has plenty of time to veto and workshop the plan pre powerpoint. The pp is more of a rehash of final decisions.

Re: Jeff Bezos doesn't believe in PowerPoint, and his employees agree

#92

nothing grinds my gears more than "management wisdom" like this and people who then attribute success to small details like that. amazon could have thrived the same way had they used powerpoint, maybe even more. we will never know. also, different people communicate differently. dictating 6-pagers makes you select for people who prefer that, therefore having less diversity in thinking.

I feel like the article did not (the irony!) properly explain itself; I made a more detailed explanation of what they're trying to say in another place[1] in this discussion. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44700553

This is exactly what I got from reading the article. Your explanation is a less detailed overview packed in to a smaller format. Oh... the double irony?

Re: Jeff Bezos doesn't believe in PowerPoint, and his employees agree

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post #8

I actually worked at a company where someone’s job was to just make nice Power Point presentations. I’m not being facetious, that’s how the guys actually described his role as.

There were three of them at my last company. That was their role.

Re: Jeff Bezos doesn't believe in PowerPoint, and his employees agree

#94

When I watch conference recordings from CCC, Defcon, Black Hat, GDC, etc., "powerpoints" (slidedecks) work just fine for me, I'm highly engaged for hours on end. Maybe it's not the format that's the issue but the content, and PPT is just being scapegoated? In a way, even most high quality YouTube content is little more than a presentation. FYI, site is down, so this is only in reaction to the title. Likely the only v…

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Re: Jeff Bezos doesn't believe in PowerPoint, and his employees agree

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." Not evidence but a good reference to this expectation.

I'm not sure which you are equating happiness with here, is it intelligence or stupidity? At any rate many folk sayings around the world claim that only the stupid are truly happy.

Intelligence.

Re: Jeff Bezos doesn't believe in PowerPoint, and his employees agree

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For any question, there are nearly an infinite number of statements that either do not apply or make some error in fact, judgement, or conclusion. There are many more ways to be wrong. There will always be more answers that are beyond the context of any given question that we can lump into wrong. Wrongness even has more categories: - Fails to address premise - Contradicts premise - Fails to match goals - Cannot be un…

>For any question, there are nearly an infinite number of statements that either do not apply or make some error in fact, judgement, or conclusion. Q: should one vote for Trump A: No, because it will distract from his duties to distribute toys to good children once a year. Is that a wrong answer or a right answer, assuming that one agrees on should not vote for Trump. At any rate let us put it in the set of wrong ans…

Estragon was fully serious in his answer to Vladimir, wrong as it was nonetheless. Vladimir was not at first convinced of the wrongness of the answer, and they spent a fair bit of time debating about how to hang themselves and who should go first until they decided it was a wrong answer.

But the original statement was simple: "There are more ways to be wrong than there are to be right." You took issue with this, but if you're willing to grant that the set of wrongness is infinite, we're one step away from a debating proof (pumps fist: internet points!). If you'll concede that the ways to be right in answer to the question are finite, which I'd assert even in the innovative space, they are, then the statement holds.

At any rate, thank you for the discussion.

Re: Jeff Bezos doesn't believe in PowerPoint, and his employees agree

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post #78

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that sentence is silly as saying all fed families are the same, all starving of hunger are starving in their own way

How so? Here's another version of the idea. All healthy k8s clusters are within the same healthy range, but there are many dimensions on which a cluster can be not healthy.

so you are setting up a baseline/norm “xyz is in healthy range” and then are expecting anomaly to be also to be in some same dimension as well?
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