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Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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Docker container FTW. Thanks for the heads-up - this is a project I will happily throw a Hetzner server at.

Same here. I am geniunely asking myself for what though. I mean, they'll receive a list of the linked domains, but what will they do with that?

It's not only goo.gl links they are actively archiving. Take a look at their current tasks.

https://tracker.archiveteam.org/

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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Jm2c, but if your resource is a link to an online resource that's borderline already (at any point the content can be changed or disappear). Even worse if your resource is a shortened link by some other service, you've just added yet another layer of unreliable indirection.

Citations are citations, if it's a link, you link to it. But using shorteners for that is silly.

It's not silly if the link is a couple hundred characters long.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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post #81

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Google killing their domains service was the last straw for me. I started moving all of my stuff off of Google since then.

I'm still shocked that my google voice number still functions after all these years. It makes me assume it's main purpose is to actually be an honeypot of some sort, maybe for spam call detection.

Pretty sure you can thank the FCC for that :)

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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https://perma.cc/ It is built for the task, and assuming worse case scenario of sunset, it would be ingested into the Wayback Machine. Note that both the Internet Archive and Cloudflare are supporting partners (bottom of page). ( https://doi.org/ is also an option, but not as accessible to a casual user; the DOI Foundation pointed me to https://www.crossref.org/ for adhoc DOI registration, although I have not had tim…

While Perma is solution specifically for this problem, and a good one at that - citing the might of the backing company is a bit ironic here

If Cloudflare provides the infra (thanks Cloudflare!), I am happy to have them provide the compute and network for the lookups (which, at their scale, is probably a rounding error), with the Internet Archive remaining the storage system of last resort. Is that different than the Internet Archive offering compute to provide the lookups on top of their storage system? Everything is temporary, intent is important, etc. Can always revisit the stack as long as the data exists on disk somewhere accessible.

This is distinct from Google saying "bye y'all, no more GETs for you" with no other way to access the data.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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post #81

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Google killing their domains service was the last straw for me. I started moving all of my stuff off of Google since then.

I'm still shocked that my google voice number still functions after all these years. It makes me assume it's main purpose is to actually be an honeypot of some sort, maybe for spam call detection.

Because IIRC it’s essentially completely run by another company (I want to say Bandwidth?) and, again my memories might be fuzzy, originally came from an acquisition of a company called Grand Central.

My guess is it just keeps chugging along with little maintenance needed by Google itself. The UI hasn’t changed in a while from what I’ve seen.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used".

I bet 99% of URLs that exist on the public web had no activity last month. Might as well delete the entire WWW because it's obviously worthless.
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