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Re: ICE's Supercharged Facial Recognition App of 200M Images

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Post by ThinkBeat »

potato3732842 wrote: post #25
user982 wrote: post #21

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Many of the weapons now wielded by Trump (ICE, AUMF, DHS, Guantanamo, etc) were introduced under Bush II.

Exactly. Everyone screeching now should have listened to those weirdo civil liberties people 20yr ago. You get the government you deserve. I hope we can get this authoritarian phase over with quickly so that the people who actually made decisions, if only as minor as voting, can suffer for them rather than die peacefully leaving future generations to sort it out.

Given that the majority of Republicans and Democrats have kept these programs alive, one way or another, does not fill with much hope on that front. Or put differently, enough Republicans and Democrats to keep it alive.

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Post by qingcharles »

mbostleman wrote: post #39
dragonwriter wrote: post #37

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> As a former MAGA it's just mind boggling to watch all the supposedly freedom loving GOP base clamor for mass digital surveillance and gestapo immigration raids. Both (sweeping away due process for mass deportation, and eliminating restrictions on law enforcement and surveillance in the name of “law and order” generally) were both major promises of Trump’s 2024 campaign and things that he made steps toward limited b…

> sweeping away due process for mass deportation…> This is pretty off topic obviously but I see this due process claim a lot and I am assuming I’m missing some kind of fundamental legal concepts. And that wouldn’t be surprising because I have no legal background. If a person is not a citizen, and they’ve overstayed whatever limit there is to staying while not being a citizen, and if the action taken is to remove the…

If you moved to another country, and the police grabbed you on the street, would you like to have a hearing to find out why and dispute their findings before they shipped you away to Africa to never see your spouse and children again?

You need due process even for outsiders.

Re: ICE's Supercharged Facial Recognition App of 200M Images

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Post by ujkhsjkdhf234 »

mikece wrote: post #90
ujkhsjkdhf234 wrote: post #86

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JD Vance and Peter Thiel are followers of Curtis Yarvin who ultimately wants the end of democracy and freedom of speech to create a "CEO for America" who can make decrees at will. JD Vance is Thiel's protege and the reason JD Vance is VP is because of Thiel's support.

I had never heard of Curtis Yarvin... though his views aren't exactly novel or unique.

Whether they are novel or not isn't important. What is important is that he has the ear of the VPOTUS and the CEO of the largest private surveillance network.

Re: ICE's Supercharged Facial Recognition App of 200M Images

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Post by kaikai »

trhway wrote: post #24
JohnFen wrote: post #20

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That sounds like a perfect way to make a disastrous situation an order of magnitude more disastrous.

That thinking is how we're getting more and more power asymmetry between government and society. The government knows everything about everybody (even if today it is 90% true it will be 100% tomorrow anyway), and thus has unlimited power over everybody. The only way to defang such power is to make the info public from the beginning.

As someone who has been stalked, I absolutely disagree. It’s already a risk for me to own property or do other basic things, because it exposes my address in a public database.

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Post by pyuser583 »

mikece wrote: post #90
ujkhsjkdhf234 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

JD Vance and Peter Thiel are followers of Curtis Yarvin who ultimately wants the end of democracy and freedom of speech to create a "CEO for America" who can make decrees at will. JD Vance is Thiel's protege and the reason JD Vance is VP is because of Thiel's support.

I had never heard of Curtis Yarvin... though his views aren't exactly novel or unique.

Yeah they are … he’s really cooky in a narrow and specific way.

Frankly tried reading his stuff, and it becomes gibberish. At one point he calls his political philosophy Jacobitism, which was a real ideology at some point, but it bears no connection with anything else bearing the name.

He’s basically just repackaged Thomas Carlyle with some interesting personal anecdotes.

Re: ICE's Supercharged Facial Recognition App of 200M Images

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Post by sgentle »

josephcsible wrote: post #66
sgentle wrote: post #53

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I think there are 3 fundamental misapprehensions that someone who thinks in abstract systems (like software) tends to make when considering about a human system (like the law). 1. The system doesn't make mistakes 2. The system represents the underlying reality 3. The system can be implemented Let's see how that plays out here: 1. You're a US citizen. While returning from an overseas trip, a border agent thinks it's a…

> on paper, the moment you were terminated you lost your legal status That's not true. There's a 60 day grace period after your employment ends during which you still have your legal status: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/...

My bad. Looks like that changed in 2017 and I had out of date information. I will say that "may eliminate or shorten this 60-day period as a matter of discretion" means the scenario is still just as plausible:

https://natlawreview.com/article/notices-appear-ntas-being-i...

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