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Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Finally EU is waking up. Proud of it. I am switching asap my Openai contract finishes to Mistral. We got to support EU, Viva La France.

Yeah honestly I'm just waiting for Mistral Large 3. They've hinted about it. It's probably going to become the new language model in Le Chat, and imminent:

From the "One more thing" on the Mistral Medium 3 blog post in May:

> With the launches of Mistral Small in March and Mistral Medium today, it’s no secret that we’re working on something ‘large’ over the next few weeks. With even our medium-sized model being resoundingly better than flagship open source models such as Llama 4 Maverick, we’re excited to ‘open’ up what’s to come :)

That version ought to close the gap to large top models today enough to not matter much anymore. And the Cerebras speed will/does make it feel awesome compared to ChatGPT.

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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I think they've buried the lede with their image editing capabilities, which seem to be very good! OpenAI's model will change the whole image while editing messing up details in unrelated areas. This seems to perfectly preserve parts of the image unrelated to your query and selectively apply the edits, which is very impressive! The only downside is the output resolution (the resulting image is 1184px wide even though…

This is gonna kill Craigslist :-). You see these pictures of a really nice car and get there and find it has a crushed left fender, rust holes in the hood and a broken headlight.

We had a realtor list a property in our area and they had used generative AI to "re-imagine" the property because the original owner who had bought it in 1950 and died in it in 2023 had done zero maintenance and upgrades. People who showed up to see it were really super pissed. The realtor argued this was just the next step after staging, but it certainly didn't work here. They took it off the market and a bunch of people showed up to fix it up (presumably from the family but one never knows).

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Slower in initial delivery maybe, but the maintenance and debugging of production applications requires intimate knowledge of the code base usually. The amount of code AI writes will require AI itself to manage it since no human would inundate themselves with that much code. Will it be faster even so? We simply won’t know because those vibe coded apps have just entered production. The horror stories can’t be written…

Oh yeah, I totally agree. Vibe coding is not (anytime soon at least) going to be a thing. But using AI tools for things like completing simple functions (co-pilot) or asking questions about a codebase can still be huge time savers. I've also had really good success with having AI generate me basic scripts that would have taken 45 minutes of work, but it gets me a working script in 3. It's not the revolution that's be…

This. If there's one thing I've found AI to be a huge timesaver for, it's writing things that interact with libraries/frameworks/codebases that have an atrociously large surface area. AI can sift through the noise so much faster than I can and get me going down the right pack in way less time.

(Aside: Hi Ben! If you are who I think you are, we started at the same company on the same day back in August of 2014.)

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Actually Le Chat is french for the (male) cat. Also 'Le Chat' is a well known laundry detergent (of german origin - Henkel company). The headline 'Le Chat takes a deep dive' means 'the cat takes a deep dive'. As there is a cooperation with (german) Black Forest Labs, this is all pretty funny for a french speaking person. 'La Chatte' is the female cat. And also colloquial for female private parts.

Mistral plays this up with their M logo being a cat face and at the bottom of most of their non-document pages having an animated pixel cat.

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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I think they've buried the lede with their image editing capabilities, which seem to be very good! OpenAI's model will change the whole image while editing messing up details in unrelated areas. This seems to perfectly preserve parts of the image unrelated to your query and selectively apply the edits, which is very impressive! The only downside is the output resolution (the resulting image is 1184px wide even though…

This is gonna kill Craigslist :-). You see these pictures of a really nice car and get there and find it has a crushed left fender, rust holes in the hood and a broken headlight. We had a realtor list a property in our area and they had used generative AI to "re-imagine" the property because the original owner who had bought it in 1950 and died in it in 2023 had done zero maintenance and upgrades. People who showed u…

Would lying really lead to more used car sales and thus cause pressure for other to attempt this kind of fraud? And wouldn't people get in trouble for fraud (or at least false advertising?)

When I last bought a used car I found it in a classified newspaper ad: there was no picture.

I looked at every car I considered in-person.

When I found one I liked I paid for an independent pre-purchase inspection, discovered a crack in the radiator, and negotiated the price down to cover my post-sale expense fixing it.

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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At this point, the entire AI industry seems to just copy OpenAI for the most part. I cannot help but notice that we have the same services just offered by different companies. The amount of innovation in this build is not that high actually.

> At this point, the entire AI industry seems to just copy OpenAI for the most part Well, OpenAI copied the Deep Research feature from Google. They even used the same name (as does Mistral).

Where does Perplexity sit in this race? I was aware of their "deep research" first, but that doesn't mean it was.

They've recently removed (limited) use of it from the free plan, so I guess it was costing more than they were making from paid subscribers

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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This is gonna kill Craigslist :-). You see these pictures of a really nice car and get there and find it has a crushed left fender, rust holes in the hood and a broken headlight. We had a realtor list a property in our area and they had used generative AI to "re-imagine" the property because the original owner who had bought it in 1950 and died in it in 2023 had done zero maintenance and upgrades. People who showed u…

Would lying really lead to more used car sales and thus cause pressure for other to attempt this kind of fraud? And wouldn't people get in trouble for fraud (or at least false advertising?) When I last bought a used car I found it in a classified newspaper ad: there was no picture. I looked at every car I considered in-person. When I found one I liked I paid for an independent pre-purchase inspection, discovered a cr…

There is a lot of fraud on Craigslist. The fraudsters are very creative. There is this fallacy, the 'Sunk Cost' fallacy, where people accept a substandard result because they feel they have already invested in the result and don't want to 'throw away' that investment. So in a place where it can take 90 minutes to go across the Bay, if you drive clear across the Bay for what you believe to be a pristine item, you may buy anyway (at a reduced price) because you've already invested the time to get there. Whereas, had the seller posted actual pictures of the item in question, you would have said, "I'll wait for one in better condition to come along."

The "success" of Craiglist is that it exposes you item to a wider pool of buyers, which increases the chance that the one person who really wants it, will see it. And if they really want it they are motivated to go out of their way to get to it. But if even the pictures lie and you don't know what you're getting until you get there, your willingness to take the risk and drive out is reduced, which means people will have items that might have sold if you were trusted.

This happens on EBay too. Sellers list something and it isn't as described, and fraudulent sellers will say "but it is! This buyer is trying to scam me." and EBay usually sides with the seller.

My prediction (and hey, its just a guess) is that if people start using these tools to "enhance" the images they use to sell stuff and it becomes a regular practice, then the total population of people who will use Craigslist will go down and prices overall will be reduced as that fraud gets priced in. Sellers won't get as much as they think they should and stop selling there. If it drops below critical mass then the service suffers.

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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An alternative: don't use LLMs. Focus on the enjoyment of coding, not on becoming more efficient. Because the lion's share of the gains from increased efficiency are mainly going to the CEOs.

This is HN, we are not all wage workers here For wage workers, not learning the latest productivity tools will result in job loss. By the time it is expected of your role, if you have not learned already, you won't be given the leniency to catch up on company time. There is no impactful resistance to this through individual protest, only by organizing your peers in industry

I would like downvotes to explain what’s wrong

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Actually Le Chat is french for the (male) cat. Also 'Le Chat' is a well known laundry detergent (of german origin - Henkel company). The headline 'Le Chat takes a deep dive' means 'the cat takes a deep dive'. As there is a cooperation with (german) Black Forest Labs, this is all pretty funny for a french speaking person. 'La Chatte' is the female cat. And also colloquial for female private parts.

Your comment reminded me of the phrase 'Je te laisse le choix dans la date'.

Yours reminded me of this one: "Vous ne voulez pas un whisky d'abord ?"

ref: scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm6F0mVVJBo

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

#100
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A major reason I haven’t really tried any of these things (despite thinking they are vaguely neat). I think I will wait until… 2026, second half, most likely. At least I’ll check if we have local models and hardware that can run them nicely, by then. Hats off to the folks who have decided to deal with the nascent versions though.

When ChatGPT, then Llama, then Alpaca came out in rapid succession, I decided to hold off a year before diving in. This was definitely the right choice at the time, it’s becoming less-the-right-choice all the time. In particular it’s important to get past the whole need-to-self-host thing. Like, I used to be holding out for when this stuff would plateau, but that keeps not happening, and the things we’re starting to…

i don’t quite see the point in waiting, if you’re using something like lm studio just download the latest and greatest and you’re on your way, where is the fatigue part?

i can understand maybe if you’re spending hours setting it up but to me these are download and go

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