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I'm not GP, but I agree that if your goal is to empower the end user and protect him from corporate overlords, then Firefox is a more logical choice to fork from.
Isn't the Firefox code notoriously hard to fork and work with? I'm sure that nearly all of these Chrome forks would prefer to fork Firefox, but there's a reason they don't.
Also, I think it is super important we have different "webbrowser engines" and that are independent from big tech companies. If we only have chromium it would be really bad and hurt use consumer really bad and also stop inovation.
We really need to support independentCbrowsers like Firefox more.
I want to see the mouse cursor moving and clicking, and keys typed by the AI appearing onscreen in realtime like you see in software product tutorials. The jumpiness of pages switching and things changing when an AI is driving is extremely disorienting. I find it hard to follow a thread of continuity in the page flashes and ui changes as the bot acts. Right now it’s like watching a screen recording with no hint as to…
Want you really want is a caretaker ai
> We are also building an LLM-based ad-blocker after Chrome blocked uBlock Origin. Since it's a Chromium fork, why not re-enable uBlock Origin instead?
The real question is, why not opt to fork Firefox who is doing that work for them.
If this is a privacy first browser, why wasn´t Firefox used when it is much better out of the box for this approach? All security and privacy focused webbrowser use Firefox. Like Tor Browser, Mullvad Browser, LibreWolf etc. Also, I think it is super important we have different "webbrowser engines" and that are independent from big tech companies. If we only have chromium it would be really bad and hurt use consumer r…
You're privacy focused but use chrome as the engine?
I want to see the mouse cursor moving and clicking, and keys typed by the AI appearing onscreen in realtime like you see in software product tutorials. The jumpiness of pages switching and things changing when an AI is driving is extremely disorienting. I find it hard to follow a thread of continuity in the page flashes and ui changes as the bot acts. Right now it’s like watching a screen recording with no hint as to…
We will look into add a cursor movements; key typing should already appear like a human would (but probably we can slow it down a bit).
If this is a privacy first browser, why wasn´t Firefox used when it is much better out of the box for this approach? All security and privacy focused webbrowser use Firefox. Like Tor Browser, Mullvad Browser, LibreWolf etc. Also, I think it is super important we have different "webbrowser engines" and that are independent from big tech companies. If we only have chromium it would be really bad and hurt use consumer r…
We spoke to folks who had built browser on top of webkit and they spent nearly 2years just fixing random bugs and getting sites to work. I'm sure firefox/gecko engine would probably work better than webkit, but the point still is: if we don't use chromium, a lot of work does have go into fixing website compatibility issues, adding support for extension. We're 2 person startup and chromium codebase was easier to build on top of and provides a solid baseline.
And Brave has shown that you can build a privacy-focused browser on top of chromium still.
In the agentic browser era, I think there are so many low hanging fruits on privacy which are more important to address -- sending all your sensitive data to Perplexity Comet to sell ads is a pretty bad option right now. Supporting local LLM, letting folks bring their own API keys is crucial.
> We are also building an LLM-based ad-blocker after Chrome blocked uBlock Origin. Since it's a Chromium fork, why not re-enable uBlock Origin instead?
Chromium will remove the Manifest V2 APIs, and none of these forks want to maintain them. Brave also chose to have their own built-in adblocker. The real question is, why not opt to fork Firefox who is doing that work for them.
But we are working on adding built-in adblockers just like Brave + enhancing it to detect more ad formats using lightweight local LLM.
So would this or any AI browser go out and fetch a list of the best deals for my trip to Iceland? After Show me all the options it has found for flights, hotels, car rentals and show cheapest/best prices with all details (fly out of and into with times) to even allow me to pay for each item on same page I asked it to do so? As well it could group the overall best deal with details and then i can just click to pay ins…
Orbitz.com has done this for 20 years.
That's advantage of LLMs you dont have to go to the websites and soon you can just talk to your LLM like chatGPT or an advanced Siri to do this and boom it does all the research and shows you the top deals for you to purchase with a click (after you reviewed the prefered one and or talk to the LLM who makes the updates/edits you need before u do one click purchase).
If I was Orbitz I would be begging to work with Open AI / chatGPT (use Orbitz API) before Open AI does it themselves. Website visitation is and going to be dropping precipitiously along with the field of web design and development. That's my own field but it's so clear to me as technological evolutions that get adopted are the ones that reduce steps and make things easier to more magical.
> But we strongly believe that a privacy-first browser with local LLM support is more important than ever – since agents will have access to so much sensitive data. How does this make money? Surely this will have a cloud offering? But if it doesn't make money, I can only assume that the team will be acqui-hired to answer that question.
Our plan is to make the consumer version of the browser for free and sell licenses for enterprise version.
This is similar to how many open-source projects sustain development.
And enterprise browsers are picking up -- Island browser, Talon browser.