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Re: Kite News

#92

Kagi founder here. This is prematurely shared and not ready for prime time yet. Official launch with mobile apps will happen soon. Thanks!

Hi First, it's a great idea! The "introductory" speech is interesting then... the result is really disappointing :-( You see: I'm French (and European). So, I don't necessarily consider that "Trump" is the center of the "World" (actually quite the opposite). However, on the "World" tab, 50% of the news are about "Trump". I would have thought that the aim of this kind of newsfeed is to challenge Trump tactic's of "new…

As another European, I second this. I avoid Trump "news" like a plague. This was 50% Trump; 8 out of 10 was US.

Re: Kite News

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1lvzd7k/north_ko...

Anti Kim Jong-un, a dictator, article is right leaning?

That's just how the left works today. Anything remotely aligns with the US's interest (criticizing NK, China, etc) is right leaning.

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#94
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I love it. This is the only site I want to read the news on. Feature request: Mark the headline as read once I tap or click on it. When I collapse a headline, would it be possible to change the text colour to grey? I don't like having to do manual tasks when I’m just trying to read the news. Amazing tool, thanks!

Have a look at https://www.boringreport.org/app

I saw it here on HN a couple of years ago and found it pretty good. I hate the current state of news. Titles are usually pure clickbait and half of the article's content is filling text for ad prints.

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#97
When they first got mentioned, I started aggregating their links. Just now did a quick analysis to look if they've changed something. At the beginning Kite contained a lot of rt.com (Russian propaganda) and a few other discutable sources. rt.com has not surfaced since May 22, which is good. Hope they'll reconsider Kagi's Yandex integration as well.

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#98
I’d call this performative news consumption. Information overload is mainly a result of legitimate complexities in the world. It took only a little while to find in today’s item about Hamas a timeline describing October 7th as “the beginning of the current conflict”. A very neat and comfortable summarisation, that also happens to be vehemently rejected by many people. It’s very silly.

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#99
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UX is nice enough but suffers from same curation (center-right leaning, tech industry-directed) that makes anything like this fundamentally pointless in the long term. Designed to keep readers within the acceptable window of mainstream media that manufactures consent for war, genocide, income inequality, and other suffering at home and abroad. For example: this site taught me that there is only one (unnamed) sticking…

That is indeed a problem and an unsolvable one. All major news sources are in the business of manufacturing consent. They're not trying to manufacture the exact same consent, but mash them together... you get a general direction, not unlike the ones we see at cattle ranches. But those news are still useful. There is still real information coming from it, and of better quality than all those alternative channels (whic…

tl;dr: It sounds like we agree that the UX is good but the aggregation is bad.

To call the problem unsolvable is dismissive and makes the whole endeavor of aggregating news pointless.

The mainstream sources are in fact manufacturing the exact same consent by defining the acceptable polarity of discourse on any given topic. There are plenty of non-major news sources that offer a different perspective from the mainstream but aren’t fringe in any sense. Someone as plain as Amy Goodman comes to mind. By ignoring them all and saying the mainstream sources are of “better quality” leaves me curious to know which alternative sources are on your radar as well as your overall satisfaction with the news presented on the site.

The problem with this site specifically is it is not mashing everything together to get a general direction. It curates a specific set of sources to provide a center-right direction while explicitly ignoring the left of center POV.

Let’s assume this takes off and people find it an easily digestible way to read the news. Readers trust the product and decide that if they want to learn more about a story they can click the source links, since those must also be trustworthy. And by extension, alternative sources may not be trustworthy. Based on what you’re saying I think we both agree that these are bad conclusions, since mainstream sources routinely lie or create narratives that allow for war, death, antisemitism, Islamophobia, etc., while alternative outlets may have heavily sourced, deeply detailed reporting that wouldn’t get picked up by major press. Facts presented in a story from either type of outlet may be doctored in many ways for any number of purposes, so it’s not so simple to say a number or a survey result or anything else is “wheat”, or that any analysis is “chaff”.

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#100

The announcement talks a big talk of trying to avoid echo-chambers, but the sources it quotes seem to be exclusively on the center-right (i.e. liberal) to far-right spectrum. Not a single left wing source as far as I can see. Everything contained within the pro-capitalist echochamber. No Jacobin, No Novara Media, No WSWS. Just another way of rearranging the same pro-market propaganda. As a paying Kagi subscriber, it'…

I see the Guardian - which is considered left wing in the UK - so I would think would be in the US as well.

It’s center-right. Even something as boring as Democracy Now would be a major improvement for this list.
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