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Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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Re: Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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Nice. It’s amazing to see the progress Bulgarians have made in the last 20 years after joining the EU. I can imagine it hasn’t been an easy process.

Two things that surprised me when I spent a couple of months in Bulgaria: * Bulgarian support for the EU is pretty low and people didn't think it made their life much better * Bulgarian support for Russia is very high, like 50%, probably due to their historic help in kicking out the Turks

Bulgaria economy and the average citizen quality of life are not that correlated. You can have one improving while the other is deteriorating. We saw what happened in the US when such a gap became wide enough.

Re: Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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I was in Belgium the week the Belgian franc converted to Euros. I saw no price changes other than rounding up or down to the nearest Euro equivalent price. If memory serves some stores showed prices in both denominations for a while which would not have allowed for stealth inflation to happen. The currencies were pegged for a period before then so other than niche cases there really weren’t opportunities for massive…

> I saw no price changes other than rounding up or down to the nearest Euro equivalent price Dunno about Belgium but what I notice in French supermarkets is that prices aren’t rounded at all. 10k SKUs will have 10k different prices (ish). Plain frozen pizza? 4,62 EUR. Same with pepperoni? 4,92 EUR Domestic 500mL beer? 1,14 EUR Fancier beer? 1,81 EUR

Plain frozen pizza? gesticulates annoyed in Italian ;-)

Re: Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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This will likely come with a one-time significant increase in inflation, at least based on other European countries. When Germany converted to the Euro, the conversion rate was (IIRC) about ~2 DM to the Euro but from what I recall, a lot of everyday things went from costing 7 DM to 7 euro, effectively doubling in price. IIRC France was similar (ie ~6.5 francs to the Euro but 10 Francs went to 3 euro, etc). I've tried…

I was in Belgium the week the Belgian franc converted to Euros. I saw no price changes other than rounding up or down to the nearest Euro equivalent price. If memory serves some stores showed prices in both denominations for a while which would not have allowed for stealth inflation to happen. The currencies were pegged for a period before then so other than niche cases there really weren’t opportunities for massive…

40,3399 BEF

They really hammered this in. It was even a question on my exams.

Re: Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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I was in Belgium the week the Belgian franc converted to Euros. I saw no price changes other than rounding up or down to the nearest Euro equivalent price. If memory serves some stores showed prices in both denominations for a while which would not have allowed for stealth inflation to happen. The currencies were pegged for a period before then so other than niche cases there really weren’t opportunities for massive…

I’m Belgian. This is correct. Even now, some people here still convert euros to francs to get a grasp on the value.

I did that a while ago and stopped immediately because it's scary and irrelevant. My parents house was wrote expensive at the rule they bought it at 600.000 Bfr. Now it's being valued at 600.000 euros. That's a factor 40 over about 30 years. When euro landed a beer cost about 45 Bfr, a bit over a euro. Now I pay €2,5. It's hard to compare prices over that period of time.

Re: Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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If abandoning your own currency and adopting Euros was such a big deal, the UK would have done it decades ago (while it was still a part of the EU). This benefits the bigger economies, at the expense of the smaller economies. Any fiscal policy is dictated by the bigger countries, and with identical currencies, the only policy left for Bulgarians is to cut wages in public sector. This will impact local economy, and ri…

The Bulgarian Lev is already pegged to the euro and was pegged to the DM before

Is that why the lev tonUeor conversion rate is essentially the same ad DM to Euro?

Re: Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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the Euro has lost almost half of its purchasing power since its creation. bulgarians want the Euro so much, that they have to run tv ads, "we will become more wealthy by introducing the Euro", what? how will that happen, if you need more money to buy same or less products/services? lmao

Historically other currencies have depreciated much more than the Euro. The LEV depreciated around 99% before being pegged to the Euro.

Re: Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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The Euro expansion is the mechanism the EU has to export inflation to other countries, similar to the way the US exports inflation with dollar trading across the world. When the easy expansion stops, this is when the debasement will start to occur. The US is already at this point, very soon the dollar will be less valuable as less trading is happening in USD.

I think there are other motives otherwise Bulgaria would say, no thank you. IMHO, the primary motivation is to establish/strengthen the single market and the economic cohesion of the EU. That inflation is a side effect of this (and part of the stabilization) might be the case.

we want to say NO THANK YOU by holding a referendum, but they wont let us. xaxa

Re: Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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But is anyone asking for their own local currency or central bank? If not why not?

In some places I gather that pretty much happened during https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Indian_banknote_demonetis... . (I happened to be in India at the time, but where I was it was more just extreme discontent with resignation, rather than threatening fracture.)

The discontentment arose because it was extremely poorly planned, and failed to address the very problems it was 'trying' to solve. It is very unlikely for a state government to implement a local currency and introduce more friction to an already painfully bureaucratic system; it is a politically disastrous move.

> Monetary policy is government policy. The ruling party is seldom uniformly popular across their entire domain.

If by monetary policy you are referring to fiscal policy, you're pretty much spot on. There's always in-fighting between states and lots of complaining about the central/federal government favoring certain states over others.

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